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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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Any reason an indie film maker shouldn't buy it?

Like a lot of indie film makers, I've been following the HD DSLR revolution for the last couple of years with great interest.

Just finished my 4th feature, 6th EXTINCTION, shot on a JVC GY 100. Happy enough with the images the camera produced, which I'd compare to well shot 16mm film - as well as toughness and ease of use - but I'm looking to upgrade.

I know there remains the possibility that the Mark II will get 24p firmware (although with every passing day that looks more doubtful); that the RED Scarlet will be available in the next year for $3 grand (again, looking doubtful); or that a company will make a true video camera with all the goodies the 7D has -
Canon XL-H2 anyone?

All that said, at this point in time is there any technical reason for me not to jump on the bandwagon and buy the 7D?

Thanks for any insight guys -

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Old September 2nd, 2009, 03:38 PM   #2
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All that said, at this point in time is there any technical reason for me not to jump on the bandwagon and buy the 7D?
None other than the fact that they aren't available. I haven't seen any expected ship date yet.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:03 PM   #3
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I suspect this will depend on your filming style and if the possible Jello effects will be an issue. If you're making the next Bourne film perhaps not, if you've a more static style perhaps.
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Old September 2nd, 2009, 04:30 PM   #4
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Ergonomics aside, if you're happy with the image quality you see then go for it. I too was waiting for Scarlet, but this looks like a good cam to get until that finally gets resolved. This camera should hold its value very well.
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I'm a John Carpenter devote, meaning I likes me some smooth dolly/crane shots, or smooth stedi-cam shots... but I do a end up doing a lot of hand held however b/c of the run and gun nature of shooting on a shoestring budget.

How bad is the jello on the Mark II and should we expect the same effect on the 7D?

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I haven't seen any expected ship date yet.
End of this month.
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At least in the 60p mode it is technically impossible for the 7D to have as much jello effect as the 5D. The 5D takes somewhere between 1/30 to 1/45th of a second to scan the frame from top to bottom (data on this measurement upon request). In 60p mode the maximum time available for the rolling shutter scan would naturally be 1/60th. The shorter the scan time, the less the jello.
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I don't think any of the hybridcams would be too good for run and gun type work.
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Aliasing. My advice is to rent a 5D Mk II before you buy the 7D... If you can live with the aliasing artifacts (which haven't been fixed in the 7D), then go for it.
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I'm a John Carpenter devote, meaning I likes me some smooth dolly/crane shots, or smooth stedi-cam shots...
Hard for me not to comment on the fact that I spent today operating Steadicam, then dolly, then crane shots for none other than John Carpenter!
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Charles, you are da man! respect is due.

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I second that. Love John Carpenter!!!
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Hard for me not to comment on the fact that I spent today operating Steadicam, then dolly, then crane shots for none other than John Carpenter!
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I interviewed John at his home a few years ago, he is an exceedingly gracious and interesting man. You are lucky to get to work with him.

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