Canon EOS E1 Video Plug-In for Final Cut Pro

Chuck Spaulding · February 14th, 2010, 02:36 AM

wouldn't it be nice if we could upgrade the 7D to the new MPEG2 4:2:2 codec...

Liam Hall · February 14th, 2010, 03:22 AM

RAW would be even better:)

David Chapman · February 14th, 2010, 06:15 AM

I'd rather have a firmware update to remove the red record dot and have a portable ssd to record 4:2:2 into ProRes LT/HQ from the HDMI out while adding timecode and upscaling to 1080p. Pretty much what the Syndicate is doing without a computer. Sadly, this seems very feasible but I see Canon calling this a "pipe dream" even though we are just talking about the red dot removal from hdmi out.

Andrew Holmes · February 15th, 2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Spaulding

Andrew, something to keep in mind though, unless your outputting your final project to film you don't need to use ProRes HQ, ProRes LT works great for HD and there is no perceptible difference. There are some exceptions to this for effects but as a general rule if your finishing in HD then ProRes LT is as high up the food chain you need to go.

Chuck - Thanks to you and David for the responses, and for highlighting the major differences between the HQ and LT flavors. I tend to do a lot of compositing in Motion, FCP and some AE. Storage is not a huge issue so I have been playing it safe.

I'm looking forward to comparing MPEG Streamclip to Compressor conversions.

Regarding the 4:2:2 color space and pulling clean keys - so far I have used with great success a Blackmagic Intensity Pro HDMI card and a Sony Z1's HDMI out....but that's off topic, sorry.

Keith Moreau · February 15th, 2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David Chapman

Right now, I batch convert everything before I pick through my footage. Trimming the fat before the ProRes conversion will save a lot of space.

I've done some tests recently and MPEG Streamclip does a much better/faster job at transcoding than compressor.

David, I recently my first large project mixing EX and 7D. I quickly found that I had to transcode the 7D clips to make any headway with the editing. First I tried creating a droplet for Compressor, but either I'm doing something wrong or this method is flakey. If I dropped more than a few clips, it took forever for the droplet to acknowledge I'd done anything and was just unuseably unresponsive in picking the cluster, etc.

I turned to the trusty MPEG streamclip for the conversion to standard Prores 422, which works well for batch conversion.

What I've heard of as a good workflow is to have an "folder action" to automatically batch convert clips. I'd like this for all my 7D clips, to run every night, to know that in the morning I'll have fresh, usable Prores clips to use in my edit. Do you or others have a good workflow for the Mac for this?

Thanks for a great discussion and if I've highjacked this thread, I apologize.

Evan Donn · February 15th, 2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Spaulding

wouldn't it be nice if we could upgrade the 7D to the new MPEG2 4:2:2 codec...

When Canon presented the new codec at the recent supermeet someone asked specifically about upgrading any of the current DSLRs to it and the response was that the codec in the cameras is hardware based and not something that can be updated via firmware...

Also, during the presentation of the log/capture utility it had several options for transcoding the footage on transfer - including ProRes.

Richard Van Le · February 18th, 2010, 11:44 AM

Canon's posted more detailed information about the plugin:
Canon Digital Learning Center - Introducing EOS Movie Plugin-E1 for Final Cut Pro

Liam Hall · February 19th, 2010, 05:30 PM

Looks good. I like the disc image function too. Available "Early March". Cool:)

Alvise Tedesco · March 7th, 2010, 04:38 PM

"Early march" is now. Anybody got news?

Bryan McCullough · March 12th, 2010, 02:04 PM

Liam Hall · March 12th, 2010, 03:23 PM

I heard the 15th mentioned somewhere. Can't remember where...

David Chapman · March 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM

Hahaha. I love the foot tapping. My birthday is the 20th, Canon. Please before then? Also, I would like a 70-200mm 2.8L coffee mug.

Nate Haustein · March 15th, 2010, 09:52 AM

Hoping for the best regarding the plugin tomorrow. Maybe even a Final Cut Pro update to 7.1 64-bit support.

I can wish, can't I?

Bryan McCullough · March 15th, 2010, 10:01 AM

Today is the last day of what can be technically called "early March". So that danged plugin better be here by tomorrow! :)

David Chapman · March 16th, 2010, 09:41 AM

Well, it's not early March anymore. I was thinking they were waiting on the 5DM2 firmware, but that's out now too.

February 14th, 2010, 03:22 AM	#32
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	RAW would be even better:) __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

February 14th, 2010, 06:15 AM	#33
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	I'd rather have a firmware update to remove the red record dot and have a portable ssd to record 4:2:2 into ProRes LT/HQ from the HDMI out while adding timecode and upscaling to 1080p. Pretty much what the Syndicate is doing without a computer. Sadly, this seems very feasible but I see Canon calling this a "pipe dream" even though we are just talking about the red dot removal from hdmi out. __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com

February 19th, 2010, 05:30 PM	#38
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	Looks good. I like the disc image function too. Available "Early March". Cool:) __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

March 7th, 2010, 04:38 PM	#39
Alvise Tedesco Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Milan/Italy Posts: 63	"Early march" is now. Anybody got news? __________________ vimeo.com/alvisetedesco web.mac.com/alvise.tedesco/DP/home

March 12th, 2010, 03:23 PM	#41
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	I heard the 15th mentioned somewhere. Can't remember where... __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

February 14th, 2010, 02:36 AM	#31
Chuck Spaulding Trustee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Thousand Oaks Posts: 1,099	wouldn't it be nice if we could upgrade the 7D to the new MPEG2 4:2:2 codec...

February 18th, 2010, 11:44 AM	#37
Richard Van Le New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 19	Canon's posted more detailed information about the plugin: Canon Digital Learning Center - Introducing EOS Movie Plugin-E1 for Final Cut Pro

March 12th, 2010, 02:04 PM	#40
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	<taps foot...>

March 12th, 2010, 04:31 PM	#42
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	Hahaha. I love the foot tapping. My birthday is the 20th, Canon. Please before then? Also, I would like a 70-200mm 2.8L coffee mug. __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com

March 15th, 2010, 09:52 AM	#43
Nate Haustein Trustee Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,313	Hoping for the best regarding the plugin tomorrow. Maybe even a Final Cut Pro update to 7.1 64-bit support. I can wish, can't I? __________________ Nate Haustein PXW-FX9 / FCPX www.flightcreativemedia.com

March 15th, 2010, 10:01 AM	#44
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Today is the last day of what can be technically called "early March". So that danged plugin better be here by tomorrow! :)

March 16th, 2010, 09:41 AM	#45
David Chapman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 346	Well, it's not early March anymore. I was thinking they were waiting on the 5DM2 firmware, but that's out now too. __________________ David Chapman www.davechapfilms.com