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Old April 5th, 2010, 09:57 AM   #1
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Low Light video - Kit lens T2i

Working with the kit lens right now and getting really bad results with low light video. The photos come out pretty good, but the video has a lot of grain.

Right out of the box I set it to manual and tried some low light footage at 1600 and 3200 ISO,...bad. Then went to the auto exposure the next evening and got better results, but nothing to brag about.

I have read today that you want to set the ISO between 200-800 in low light (have not had a chance to try this yet). Has anyone had any good luck with the kit lens and do you have a rule of thumb for low light\night footage?
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Old April 5th, 2010, 10:31 AM   #2
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I have read today that you want to set the ISO between 200-800 in low light (have not had a chance to try this yet). Has anyone had any good luck with the kit lens and do you have a rule of thumb for low light\night footage?
Rule of thumb with the kit lens? Yes, remove it from the camera, and put it on Ebay. Use funds from sale to buy a decently fast lens, and watch problems disappear.

The kit lens is suitable for daylight footage or other similarly bright conditions. That is all. If you want good performance and you don't have a lot of light to work with, you need MUCH faster glass.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 10:37 AM   #3
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Scroll down in the T2i section and look for threads that pretain to lenses. There are all sorts of good lenses out there that people have experimented with and have had good results. You can find video examples (eventhough they are streaming youtube videos) of some lenses that people are using.
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Old April 5th, 2010, 11:50 AM   #4
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Thanks for the replies, heading down the lens replacement road as we speak.

Great forum here.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 09:03 AM   #5
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I bought he camera with the kitlens (thinking it was cheap) but I never use it. Should have just bought the body and a 50mm 1.8 lens.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 02:12 PM   #6
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I quickly learned quite a few years ago in still photography that I needed a 'fast lens' starting at f2.8 zooms. The cheaper kit lens will quickly show it's limitations in anything but good light. In a naturally lit interior it will struggle unless you add good artificial lighting. The kit lens at 55mm and F6 will make life difficult causing high ISOs and therefore grain.

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Old April 6th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #7
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Rule of thumb with the kit lens? Yes, remove it from the camera, and put it on Ebay. Use funds from sale to buy a decently fast lens, and watch problems disappear.

The kit lens is suitable for daylight footage or other similarly bright conditions. That is all. If you want good performance and you don't have a lot of light to work with, you need MUCH faster glass.
I don't agree. The kit lens is very good optically, just not very fast for low light situations. It performs very well outdoors, and has IS as well. I use it when I want to travel light.

Besides the 50mm 1.8, you need to spend some good bucks for fast lenses.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #8
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let me recommend spending a few extra bucks, not a lot, and skip the 50mm 1.8 and go with the 50mm 1.4 Stunning in low light, almost generates it's own and it's $350. I can't keep it off my camera! Super for video and almost as nice as my 24-70mm 2.8 L which was almost 4 times more.
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Old April 6th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #9
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Well if he should go to something in the $350 range then I suggest the Sigma 30mm 1.4
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Old April 7th, 2010, 03:30 PM   #10
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I set the camera to manual, then an ISO of 400 (200 was way too dark).
Very happy with the results, even with the kit lens. The lens was perfect in well lit areas and here is a frame grab of what I got in a pretty low light section of the building. The new lens is really going to help for sure and I am pretty happy with the results after getting the tips, thanks again.
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Not to threadjack, but has anyone actually gotten just the camera body? I placed an order on March 6th at Amazon and it's still listed as a pre-order. Seems like that at other places as well.
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Old April 8th, 2010, 12:43 AM   #12
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Here's the thing - the lens you get is worth more then it cost in the kit - it has IS, nice (if not lightweight) construction, decent focal range.

But it's not fast. It won't win any "best of" contests, but it's a solid lens that has produced some stunning results.

But not at night on a dark street. Not in a dark room. I like the kit lenses; glad I own it - but I bought Canon's 50mm/1.8 three days after getting the camera. Great deal - very fast, nice and crisp. Buck 10 in local camera shop.

So for amounts to $210, you can have two very tight lenses that are made for the camera by the company that makes the camera. In other words, they work, no questions asked...

...And I think that's a pretty good deal. And for $500 more you can get into a very nice, quite fast, wide angle piece of glass (Sigma). So for under a grand, you can have some very nice options, all of which can produce professional results.

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Old April 8th, 2010, 11:18 AM   #13
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Not to threadjack, but has anyone actually gotten just the camera body? I placed an order on March 6th at Amazon and it's still listed as a pre-order. Seems like that at other places as well.
I got one from B&H 2 weeks back
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Old April 9th, 2010, 09:50 AM   #14
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Samy's camera had them in stock, the web page shows they are out, but taking orders.

If you call, they can check and see if there are any in.


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I think everyone is having a tough time keeping this camera on the shelf.
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Old April 10th, 2010, 12:17 PM   #15
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Just to chime in on the continuing kit lens debate, I have to say, despite my earlier post about how disappointingly bad low-light video was using my kit lens, I've been shooting stills a lot with it (while I wait for my tokina 11-16... and wait...) and, for stills, it's pretty kick-ass. For a hundred dollar lens, I got some great shots at 3.5, iso 800, 1/2 second shutter speed- totally handheld, even, full manual focus. We're talking barely-lit here, yet sharp, warm photos.

Of course, those are stills. But there's clearly nothing wrong with that kit glass...
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