Output video vertically (9:16) not horizontally (16:9) at DVinfo.net

Marc Burleigh · July 29th, 2010, 04:53 PM

I'm sure this question must have been asked somewhere, but a search has yielded nothing, so if the brainsters here can help, I would appreciate.

I've just had a request from a potential client to shoot a short fashion video that will be shown on widescreen TVs in a shop. The only thing is, these TVs will be mounted vertically, not horizontally as normal.

Now, I've seen fashion videos done this way already, so I know it's possible. My question is: how best to do this with the 7D?

The logical thing would be to shoot with the camera vertical. But that would create problems in editing, wouldn't it (I use FCP7 by the way)? I saw one recommendation online suggesting to shoot normally (ie. horizontally) then crop the finished video in the edit to the 9:16 proportions. But wouldn't that kill too much resolution for TV output?

Ideas? Things to avoid?

Jon Fairhurst · July 29th, 2010, 07:08 PM

Turn the camera 90 degrees. Turn your monitor 90 degrees. Edit away!

Just make sure to find out if they will rotate the TVs clockwise or counterclockwise. Sure, you can flip it in post, but you'll definitely want to get your final delivery right side up. :)

Rainer Listing · July 29th, 2010, 08:47 PM

Vegas has "output rotation" a feature designed so that you can use vertical displays (shot from a camera rotated 90 degrees).

John Wiley · July 29th, 2010, 11:42 PM

When I first read the title to this thread, my first thought was "oh no, another photgrapher who's fiddled with the video mode on his 7d without realising you can't shoot video vertically!" But luckily you're planning ahead!

Turning your moniter on it's side could be a litte cumbersome, particularly seeing the timeline would then be vertical - although if you're using an 2nd moniter for full screen preview it should be ok.

You could duplicate all your clips, then rotate one batch in QT Pro before importing to FCP. Then edit on a standard timeline (so you'll have pillarboxes when you drop your rotated footage on the timeline). When you're done editing, re-reconnect the clips to the original files and render out. The only thing I'm unsure of with this method is whether or not the footage would get re-scaled automatically - you might get the rotated files stretching/cropping to fill the screen, or you might reconnect the original files and have them appear as a small box in the middle of the screen.

Marc Burleigh · July 30th, 2010, 10:39 AM

Right... Of course. So shoot vertically, output on a vertical monitor. All should be good right? Just no way of seeing it on another monitor..... And good point about making sure knowing which way the monitors are rotated.....

July 29th, 2010, 04:53 PM	#1
Marc Burleigh Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 143	Output video vertically (9:16) not horizontally (16:9) I'm sure this question must have been asked somewhere, but a search has yielded nothing, so if the brainsters here can help, I would appreciate. I've just had a request from a potential client to shoot a short fashion video that will be shown on widescreen TVs in a shop. The only thing is, these TVs will be mounted vertically, not horizontally as normal. Now, I've seen fashion videos done this way already, so I know it's possible. My question is: how best to do this with the 7D? The logical thing would be to shoot with the camera vertical. But that would create problems in editing, wouldn't it (I use FCP7 by the way)? I saw one recommendation online suggesting to shoot normally (ie. horizontally) then crop the finished video in the edit to the 9:16 proportions. But wouldn't that kill too much resolution for TV output? Ideas? Things to avoid?

July 29th, 2010, 07:08 PM	#2
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Turn the camera 90 degrees. Turn your monitor 90 degrees. Edit away! Just make sure to find out if they will rotate the TVs clockwise or counterclockwise. Sure, you can flip it in post, but you'll definitely want to get your final delivery right side up. :) __________________ Jon Fairhurst

July 29th, 2010, 08:47 PM	#3
Rainer Listing Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Nowra, Australia Posts: 440	Vegas has "output rotation" a feature designed so that you can use vertical displays (shot from a camera rotated 90 degrees).

July 29th, 2010, 11:42 PM	#4
John Wiley Trustee Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Byron Bay, Australia Posts: 1,155	When I first read the title to this thread, my first thought was "oh no, another photgrapher who's fiddled with the video mode on his 7d without realising you can't shoot video vertically!" But luckily you're planning ahead! Turning your moniter on it's side could be a litte cumbersome, particularly seeing the timeline would then be vertical - although if you're using an 2nd moniter for full screen preview it should be ok. You could duplicate all your clips, then rotate one batch in QT Pro before importing to FCP. Then edit on a standard timeline (so you'll have pillarboxes when you drop your rotated footage on the timeline). When you're done editing, re-reconnect the clips to the original files and render out. The only thing I'm unsure of with this method is whether or not the footage would get re-scaled automatically - you might get the rotated files stretching/cropping to fill the screen, or you might reconnect the original files and have them appear as a small box in the middle of the screen.

July 30th, 2010, 10:39 AM	#5
Marc Burleigh Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 143	Right... Of course. So shoot vertically, output on a vertical monitor. All should be good right? Just no way of seeing it on another monitor..... And good point about making sure knowing which way the monitors are rotated.....