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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:40 AM   #1
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Canon 5D mark 2 firmware update.WL

it time for us to do the wish list on the next firmware update.
sine we have a very nice camera in our hand. now time for us to make action to canon.
to be true i like this camera. but there are thing i hate and i can see canon can make it good
on the firmware update.

we like to see the control same in the photo function. sine the video function is all auto,
and this is not the way we work.

and i hope you guys think the same ask me and we can work together and put on some list to canon.

thank

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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:48 AM   #2
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wish....

full manual control in movie mode.

and the ultimate would be.... to shoot "RAW" in movie mode and canon provide a raw converter.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #3
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yeah the idea of raw is good, so we can work on uncompress file, like red.
come on canon Red have this, so do you.

and other this is to fix the rolling shutter speed.
oh and focus frame rate... :)
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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:56 AM   #4
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1. Menu option to re-purpose the AV output jack as a stereo headphone jack, for live monitoring of audio recording, per the entire Canon VIXIA camcorder line.

2. Option for manual audio level control (simple, ganged L+R, as on the consumer level VIXIA camcorders)
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Old December 9th, 2008, 07:58 AM   #5
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raw is good, so we can work on uncompress file, like red.
You guys should understand that RedCode Raw is most definitely *not* uncompressed...
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Old December 9th, 2008, 08:06 AM   #6
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i'm not so sure about red raw. but the idea is to have the 4:4:4 sample so we can get the detail like the F22, i know 5dm2 is good at keying too cuz i was try it last time and it work grate, but still we need more data to work on, like raw video.

can some one correct me, is 4:4:4 can count as uncompress? i know raw have more bit then 4:4:4

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Old December 9th, 2008, 08:56 AM   #7
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Please realize that the *vast majority* of 5D Mk.II buyers would have no idea what to do with uncompressed video. What's wrong with the 5D Mk.II's current video implementation, anyway? Remember the law of diminishing returns: how is a minor gain in image quality worth a major expense in storage requirements? How is the current 48mbps data rate not good enough?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #8
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24/25fps and manual controls... that's all I ask

Even the manual controls... I think within a month, everyone will be used to tricking the camera to get the settings they want, but it would be great to have full manual.

Skew fix would be nice, but I think that is more sensor driven than software.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 10:46 AM   #9
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Please realize that the *vast majority* of 5D Mk.II buyers would have no idea what to do with uncompressed video. What's wrong with the 5D Mk.II's current video implementation, anyway? Remember the law of diminishing returns: how is a minor gain in image quality worth a major expense in storage requirements? How is the current 48mbps data rate not good enough?
I'm more interested in RAW so that the white balance, sharpness, and contrast ( especially highlight recovery ) can be adjusted in post.... not necessarily in codec quality....

and yes... manual gain control of audio and 24p ( at the same bitrate ) would be a huge improvement.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #10
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In no particular order:
- Manual Audio Control
- Audio Monitoring
- 24/25P
- Untainted HDMI Output
- Manual Control in Video Mode.

It's a lot to ask for, I know...
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Old December 9th, 2008, 01:22 PM   #11
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#1 - Full Manual Video Control
WHY? - I'd rather buy Canon EF lenses, but if they want people to buy Nikon...

#2 - 24p/25p
WHY? - Blu-ray supports 24p, not 30p; Don't insult the European market.

These fixes don't just improve our lives, they will improve Canon's sales of Canon lenses worldwide, as well as 5D2 sales in Europe.

Also, these fixes seem feasible. Canon can clearly control focus, aperture, shutter and gain, so it's just a matter of making the controls available to the user. Regarding 24/25p, this is SLOWER than 30p, so it should be doable.

Other features might be nice for us, but they won't significantly improve Canon sales. For instance, better audio might be nice, but we can improve it even more with a separate XLR-input recorder. Clean HDMI would be cool, but it seems that they downgraded it for a reason (lower power? more DSP cycles for better compression?)

I think we should hammer on the two feature improvements above, and not dilute them with other requests. And we need to let Canon know that these fixes will help their bottom line.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:29 PM   #12
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I agree Jon, 100%! If the "community" focuses on two really important things it'll be much more likely to happen.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:41 PM   #13
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Let's make it three... audio monitoring would be so easy to enable on this camera.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #14
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My guess is canon didn't enable 24p because they didn't want to pay the 24p license. If that's the case, I doubt we'll see 24p enabled anytime soon.

OTOH, I'd love full manual control, 24p and the option of choosing between different bitrates. Thing is... the encoder they are using is not the best one out there, so a little extra bit rate couldn't hurt. I'm ok with RGB though :)
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My top 10

1. Manual control of Aperture, shutter, and ISO.
2. Break the 12 minute barrier (e.g. start a new file after 4 GB).
3. 24p.
4. Manual control of audio level.
5. Audio monitoring.
6. 1-4 stop "HTP" at all ISO over 1600.
7. Live RGB Histograms

Number 6 would leave 1-4 stops of highlights in the image with no penalty to read noise. (The current implementation of ISO 3200+ clips the highlights with no benefit at all.)

Things that will likely require much more horsepower than the 5D2 is capable of:

8. Sample every pixel instead of one in three, to reduce aliasing artifacts greatly.
9. Raw format of any kind (e.g. sRAW to 1872x1053, nonlinear encoding, etc.).
10. Live 1080p output with assist features (peaking, etc.)
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