How long before the next version? at DVinfo.net

Matt Buys · January 1st, 2009, 10:10 PM

After seeing all the footage posted on here I'm right on the edge of springing for one. Looks perfect for my needs. Great in low light and I have a pile of old nikon primes for apeture control. However, I'm wondering what are the chances the next version will have adjustable frame rates.

Any guesses when that next version might be coming out and if frame rate choice might be among the improvements.

Charles W. Hull · January 1st, 2009, 11:55 PM

The original 5D came out over three years ago, and its replacement the 5D Mark II just came out, so one would not expect a replacement any time soon. There is some hope (speculation) that frame rate might be addressed with a firmware update but Canon hasn't commented on this. It also seems likely that as the rest of the Canon SLR pro line (1D, 1Ds) is updated video will be included, perhaps with adjustable frame rates.

John Vincent · January 2nd, 2009, 10:18 AM

I'd agree with that. Hopefully there will be a firmware update, but don't hold your breath.

john

Jon Fairhurst · January 2nd, 2009, 12:36 PM

Canon already announced that they acknowledge the "black dot" issue, and are working on a fix. No word on framerates or video control.

Personally, I think they MUST make the exposure simulation settings lock down in video mode (to the nearest attainable levels, of course), giving full support to Canon EF lenses. Otherwise, they're pushing Nikon glass to us video folks.

Andreas Neubert · January 4th, 2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Fairhurst

Personally, I think they MUST make the exposure simulation settings lock down in video mode (to the nearest attainable levels, of course), giving full support to Canon EF lenses. Otherwise, they're pushing Nikon glass to us video folks.

100% agreed.

Andreas Neubert · January 4th, 2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles W. Hull

It also seems likely that as the rest of the Canon SLR pro line (1D, 1Ds) is updated video will be included, perhaps with adjustable frame rates.

They will never give the 1-series a movie mode!
The professional event photographers (sports, concerts) would NOT be admitted to the events with a HD-video capable camera!

Even Nikons freshly released flagship model D3X hast no video mode unlike the older D90.

The Canon 60D and 500D might feature video - but that will take some time as the 50D has just been released.
Canon would better do some firmware fixes this time unless the want to support Nikons next Video-DSLR release by forcing their own users to buy Nikon glass.

Jon Fairhurst · January 4th, 2009, 07:10 PM

If the 1-series won't get video, then it makes even more sense to make the Exposure Simulation mode stay locked in video mode, because the 5D will be Canon's top of the line DVSLR.

The nice thing about the Exposure Simulation mode lock is that it wouldn't affect the user interface, nor would it affect the manual. In other words, it's not an added feature, it's a bug fix. In my engineering experience, changing a feature set after product release is tough, and if it affects printed materials and the UI, it's near impossible. However, making things work the way that they should is an easier sell.

Hopefully, Canon will also make some video format cameras that use the 35mm sensor and EF mount. Give it XLR inputs, zebras, long record times, shoulder mounts, video-appropriate auto focus, and other features that people would want for event videos and charge $5k+. And they shouldn't fear giving the 5D exposure simulation lock. That feature would make the 5D more usable for us risk takers, but the 4GB limit and SLR form-factor keep the 5D from undermining other video camera sales.

Darren Jew · January 5th, 2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Neubert

They will never give the 1-series a movie mode!
The professional event photographers (sports, concerts) would NOT be admitted to the events with a HD-video capable camera!.....

So are you saying the pro event photographers won't be admitted if they're packing a 5dmkII?

And given the press organisations are pushing their photographers into capturing clips for web news, I would think Canon would want to service that market with 1 series cameras.

January 1st, 2009, 10:10 PM	#1
Matt Buys Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Asheville NC Posts: 426	How long before the next version? After seeing all the footage posted on here I'm right on the edge of springing for one. Looks perfect for my needs. Great in low light and I have a pile of old nikon primes for apeture control. However, I'm wondering what are the chances the next version will have adjustable frame rates. Any guesses when that next version might be coming out and if frame rate choice might be among the improvements.

January 1st, 2009, 11:55 PM	#2
Charles W. Hull Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canyon Country, CA Posts: 445	Next version... The original 5D came out over three years ago, and its replacement the 5D Mark II just came out, so one would not expect a replacement any time soon. There is some hope (speculation) that frame rate might be addressed with a firmware update but Canon hasn't commented on this. It also seems likely that as the rest of the Canon SLR pro line (1D, 1Ds) is updated video will be included, perhaps with adjustable frame rates.

January 2nd, 2009, 12:36 PM	#4
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Canon already announced that they acknowledge the "black dot" issue, and are working on a fix. No word on framerates or video control. Personally, I think they MUST make the exposure simulation settings lock down in video mode (to the nearest attainable levels, of course), giving full support to Canon EF lenses. Otherwise, they're pushing Nikon glass to us video folks. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

January 4th, 2009, 07:10 PM	#7
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	If the 1-series won't get video, then it makes even more sense to make the Exposure Simulation mode stay locked in video mode, because the 5D will be Canon's top of the line DVSLR. The nice thing about the Exposure Simulation mode lock is that it wouldn't affect the user interface, nor would it affect the manual. In other words, it's not an added feature, it's a bug fix. In my engineering experience, changing a feature set after product release is tough, and if it affects printed materials and the UI, it's near impossible. However, making things work the way that they should is an easier sell. Hopefully, Canon will also make some video format cameras that use the 35mm sensor and EF mount. Give it XLR inputs, zebras, long record times, shoulder mounts, video-appropriate auto focus, and other features that people would want for event videos and charge $5k+. And they shouldn't fear giving the 5D exposure simulation lock. That feature would make the 5D more usable for us risk takers, but the 4GB limit and SLR form-factor keep the 5D from undermining other video camera sales. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

January 2nd, 2009, 10:18 AM	#3
John Vincent Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,065	I'd agree with that. Hopefully there will be a firmware update, but don't hold your breath. john