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Old May 6th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #1
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jerky video at the highest res

I am using 8 gig cards rated at 133x kingston and the specs were well above what canon suggested but i am finding my videos jerky(highest res setting) on playback through say elements 7.0,through the camera they are fine .
Should i be converting the *.mov file to something else ,can anone suggest why i have this
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Old May 7th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #2
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It probably not the card, but the computer. The 5D mk II's MOV files are recorded at a very high bandwidth which most PCs cannot handle well. Take a look at the Cineform Showcase forum for "Neo Scene". It converts the MOV files to Cineform HD intermediate files (which give you many benefits!). You can play and edit those CFHD files in real time. It's costs $99 from videoguys.com.

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Old May 7th, 2009, 02:05 AM   #3
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try using powerdvd 9
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Old May 7th, 2009, 05:42 AM   #4
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Any modern computer should be able to play these files as long as it is capable of 1080p playback of any form e.g. BluRay. This rules out the little netbooks like the MSI Wind as their Intel Atom processor & modest graphics cards struggle with any HD video but. I can confirm that a new model Mac Mini is perfectly capable of playing these files out of the box.

NeoScene may be useful on Windows as an Intermediate CODEC when editing but if you just want to play the videos then you can convert to a lower bit rate or resolution using the excellent & free MPEG Streamclip Squared 5 - MPEG Streamclip video converter for Mac and Windows
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Old May 7th, 2009, 12:41 PM   #5
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Stan said he was playing them back through an NLE (Premier Elements) and the MOV files were stuttering. Having just re-read his post, it also sounds as though he is maybe trying to play the video clips back directly from the card, rather than by downloading them to the computer first.

John, you recommended Power DVD in another thread. Did you resolve the audio issue with Power DVD?

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Old May 7th, 2009, 12:57 PM   #6
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Stan, it isn't the cards. I use nearly the same ones. If the in camera playback doesnt stutter, it isn't the card.

My nearly brand new editing PC stutters while playing these .movs. I convert all mine to Cineform and they play flawlessly at full frame, even in an NLE with multiple layers. Cineform Neo Scene is a must have if you are on a PC.
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Old May 7th, 2009, 01:40 PM   #7
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Not yet, haven't had time to check, same problem with total media theater 3, plays 5d files full res and smooth but no sound. Not to concerned with sound as I record to a separate pro capture setup. but it's a nice way to review files on a big screen in the comfort of my office.


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Needless to say, I agree with Dylan on this. Neo Scene just works great. It had its ups and downs when it was first released (including an incompatibility with Nero 7), but everything is fixed and it works like a champ. It even fixes the crushed blacks issue which most of the other suggestions do not.

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Old May 7th, 2009, 04:26 PM   #9
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from stan on the jerking

thanks for all the ideas ,will try neo scene next ,i do transfer the movies to the pc and play them from there .
Also the movie maker (winxp or vista)will not look at these files (unknown)
Appreciate the getting back to me
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Old May 7th, 2009, 04:59 PM   #10
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I have Dell with Intel 4 core setup. If I try to play the media from the card or transferred to my hard drives, full screen, there is stutter. If I reduce size while play through latest version of Quicktime, stutter is eliminated. Conclusion ? My system/video card can't convert the full size image quick enough.

When I use NeoScene, and convert, full screen play back is clean.
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Old May 7th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #11
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I'm really surprised at canon for creating an *.mov file which is not friendly with xp or visa
I did convert the video file to an *.avi and that was not too bad but i guess the proper term is stutter,i have a canon S80 that takes videos at 1024x768 and they are flawless,i have not found neo scene yet for playback,i don't like quicktime becasue it takes over all video files
Also does the auto focus work in the movie mode?

Also its not the systems as i have fast hot systems powerful video and my results are such that i started this thread asking about it
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Old May 7th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #12
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Go to Cineform.com and download the free 15-day Neo Scene trial. You won't be sorry you did.

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Old May 7th, 2009, 08:26 PM   #13
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thanks will do tonight,just did a test ,recorded a video then converted it to mpeg4 using mk convert and it worked perfect in the high res.
But i will download the program memtioned.
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Old May 7th, 2009, 08:43 PM   #14
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a lot of programs will run the video ,ie nero .power dvd ver8.0 and the video flow is fine but no audio ,so to get this video working you have to convert the file to something other than *.mov or use Neo Scene
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Old May 7th, 2009, 08:52 PM   #15
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there is no trial download ,they must have stopped it
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