Dust internally on Kit Lens 24-105mm at DVinfo.net

Steve Cahill · August 20th, 2009, 08:59 AM

Just noticed a fairly large piece of dust on one of the rear internal lens elements on the Canon Zoom Lens EF 24-105mm L IS USM after reviewing some video footage. It was noticeable when shooting the sky. Ran some tests and it presents a issue when shooting at F 8 and above. Not visible when shooting under F 8.

Has anyone had issues with this lens with dust getting inside the lens?

I am wondering if the zoom extension of the front tube is pulling in any dust that may collect on it when using the zoom, when it extends out and in?

Regards
Steve

Dan Brockett · August 20th, 2009, 10:30 AM

Have Canon fix it, assuming you are under warranty. If you are not, I would still get it fixed, that isn't a cheapo lens.

Dan

Cuong Dinh · August 21st, 2009, 08:45 AM

Hi Steve,

You need to double check maybe dust in sensor. Change another the lens and if you still see a issue, for sure your camera have dust in sensor.

Cuong Dinh

Jim Newberry · August 21st, 2009, 03:50 PM

Yeah, I would definitely double check to make sure it's really the lens and not the sensor; I don't think it's common for dust in the lens to show up. If you haven't already done this, use the same body with a different lens or two at small f stops, to make sure it's not sensor dust you're seeing.

Steve Cahill · August 22nd, 2009, 01:43 PM

I can see a spec of something in the internal lens.

Daniel Browning · August 22nd, 2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Cahill

I can see a spec of something in the internal lens.

I'm sure that's true, but it doesn't rule out sensor dust. In fact, sensor dust is still a far more likely cause of your issue.

Take a test shot with a different lens.

Dan Keaton · August 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM

Dear Steve,

You may be able to get the speck of dust, in the lens, if it is actually there, to move.

Sometimes you can get it to move to the side, out of the way.

Jim Newberry · August 23rd, 2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Browning

I'm sure that's true, but it doesn't rule out sensor dust. In fact, sensor dust is still a far more likely cause of your issue.

Take a test shot with a different lens.

Right. I can see dust in most of my lenses, but it never shows in my photos. If you want to know for sure where the problem is, try different lenses, since sensor dust is a problem far more often than lens dust (in my experience anyway).

Marcus Marchesseault · August 23rd, 2009, 11:00 PM

If it goes away at lower f-stop settings, it is likely not sensor dust.

Daniel Browning · August 23rd, 2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Marchesseault

If it goes away at lower f-stop settings, it is likely not sensor dust.

That is not correct. It is normal for sensor dust to go away at lower (wider) f-stop settings.

Marcus Marchesseault · August 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM

How would sensor dust go out of focus when the iris changes?

Daniel Browning · August 24th, 2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Marchesseault

How would sensor dust go out of focus when the iris changes?

Same reason that you have a shadow in sunlight and no shadow in overcast. The filters on top of the sensor can be as thick as 2.5mm. At wide f-numbers, the light is "soft", coming from many angles, causing the dust particle to cast a large, diffuse shadow, resulting in a very tiny reduction in contrast over many pixels. At narrow f-numbers, the light is "hard", coming from just one direction, and therefore casting a dark shadow on one small spot.

Marcus Marchesseault · August 24th, 2009, 09:29 PM

"The filters on top of the sensor can be as thick as 2.5mm."

That is something I didn't know. There is a lot to learn when shifting from a video camera with integrated lens to a still camera with interchangeable lenses.

August 20th, 2009, 08:59 AM	#1
Steve Cahill Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 321	Dust internally on Kit Lens 24-105mm Just noticed a fairly large piece of dust on one of the rear internal lens elements on the Canon Zoom Lens EF 24-105mm L IS USM after reviewing some video footage. It was noticeable when shooting the sky. Ran some tests and it presents a issue when shooting at F 8 and above. Not visible when shooting under F 8. Has anyone had issues with this lens with dust getting inside the lens? I am wondering if the zoom extension of the front tube is pulling in any dust that may collect on it when using the zoom, when it extends out and in? Regards Steve

August 22nd, 2009, 01:43 PM	#5
Steve Cahill Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 321	I can see a spec of something in the internal lens. __________________ Regards Steve

August 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM	#7
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Steve, You may be able to get the speck of dust, in the lens, if it is actually there, to move. Sometimes you can get it to move to the side, out of the way. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

August 20th, 2009, 10:30 AM	#2
Dan Brockett Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 2,109	Have Canon fix it, assuming you are under warranty. If you are not, I would still get it fixed, that isn't a cheapo lens. Dan

August 21st, 2009, 08:45 AM	#3
Cuong Dinh Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas, TX - USA Posts: 89	Hi Steve, You need to double check maybe dust in sensor. Change another the lens and if you still see a issue, for sure your camera have dust in sensor. Cuong Dinh

August 21st, 2009, 03:50 PM	#4
Jim Newberry Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 170	Yeah, I would definitely double check to make sure it's really the lens and not the sensor; I don't think it's common for dust in the lens to show up. If you haven't already done this, use the same body with a different lens or two at small f stops, to make sure it's not sensor dust you're seeing.

August 23rd, 2009, 11:00 PM	#9
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	If it goes away at lower f-stop settings, it is likely not sensor dust.

August 24th, 2009, 04:08 PM	#11
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	How would sensor dust go out of focus when the iris changes?

August 24th, 2009, 09:29 PM	#13
Marcus Marchesseault Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,961	"The filters on top of the sensor can be as thick as 2.5mm." That is something I didn't know. There is a lot to learn when shifting from a video camera with integrated lens to a still camera with interchangeable lenses.