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Old July 5th, 2017, 03:51 AM   #46
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Exactly.
And complaining about a lack of video features on that camera is barking up at the wrong tree.

The video market is not the sales majority, so Canon is focusing on surpassing their competition, as they view it.
If you want a large sensor camcorder, the company offers the C series (and the XC for the less demanding users).

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Old July 5th, 2017, 04:20 AM   #47
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The video market is not the sales majority, so Canon is focusing on surpassing their competition, as they view it.
If you want a large sensor camcorder, the company offers the C series (and the XC for the less demanding users).
I hear there's a potential Nikon D750 replacement that will have 4K.... The D750 is a few years old now. It's better than the 6D Mark II and currently cheaper. So the trouble is Canon isn't surpassing its competition in my opinion. Just tailgating it. :)

Hybrid cameras that can do both video and photos have a place in today's Professional workload. It's a market Canon don't seem to want to explore seriously. That's fine; there are other alternatives. It's ironic though that Canon have given the best AF for video in their DSLR's, yet drop the ball with other useful and dare I say essential video features.

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Exactly.
And complaining about a lack of video features on that camera is barking up at the wrong tree.
If video isn't a key aspect of this camera, why are we discussing the 6D at all here in a dedicated video forum? Honestly you crack me up. LOL

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Old July 5th, 2017, 07:48 AM   #48
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I hear there's a potential Nikon D750 replacement that will have 4K....
Has to be, currently Nikon is offering a 200euro cashback at this moment on the D750 which could mean they are clearing stock before they release a new version. Nikon however doesn't seem to be so focused on the video side which might change now.
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Old July 6th, 2017, 04:27 PM   #49
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I hear there's a potential Nikon D750 replacement that will have 4K.... The D750 is a few years old now. It's better than the 6D Mark II and currently cheaper. So the trouble is Canon isn't surpassing its competition in my opinion. Just tailgating it. :)
Usually, Canon is fairly conservative about features, compared to Nikon. Rarely we see cases with firmware problems, oil leaks etc.
Obviously, the competition from Nikon in the last decade pushed Canon to bring better cameras quicker to market.
And that's why we Canon users hope to see Nikon competing harder with Canon.

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Hybrid cameras that can do both video and photos have a place in today's Professional workload. It's a market Canon don't seem to want to explore seriously. That's fine; there are other alternatives. It's ironic though that Canon have given the best AF for video in their DSLR's, yet drop the ball with other useful and dare I say essential video features.
I guess that they are 'testing' things like dual-pixel AF in dSLRs, but they want to direct serious video people to their camcorder series (eg C100) after their technology is refined.
I would expect this technology from the 80D (DPAF, touch screen, etc) finding a place in the C100mk3.

If you see carefully, there seem to be a pattern with the low-end full frame dSLRs, which recycle screens and AF systems from their previous APS counterparts:
30D -> 5D
50D -> 5D2 (and a divergence follows)
60D -> 6D (I think that the AF of the 6D is unique to this model)
80D -> 6D2

It seems that the 2-digit EOS cameras serve as testbeds for the single-digit models.

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If video isn't a key aspect of this camera, why are we discussing the 6D at all here in a dedicated video forum? Honestly you crack me up. LOL
Good question.
Direct it to the people who started this thread, please.

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Old July 6th, 2017, 05:11 PM   #50
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Usually, Canon is fairly conservative about features
To put it mildly. LOL

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I guess that they are 'testing' things like dual-pixel AF in dSLRs, but they want to direct serious video people to their camcorder series (eg C100) after their technology is refined.
I would expect this technology from the 80D (DPAF, touch screen, etc) finding a place in the C100mk3.
And we all welcome its announcement some when. And no doubt the same crippling of features to protect higher models plus the inflated price over and above its immediate competitors. Canons stock in trade.
Somehow other companies can get the balance right, whilst admittedly get the AF wrong. Still it ain't a perfect World.

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Good question.
Direct it to the people who started this thread, please.

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Well that would be difficult. I'm not even sure if he started the thread to slag the camera off or if to praise it. I do appreciate your comments Nick and agree with some of them. I just feel that if you include a feature, it should be done properly, regardless of whether its the primary function or not. And if not done well, can be criticised for it. We live in a time where technology is expected to excel at multiple functions. Just take a look at your Smartphone or do you not expect it to do more than just make phone calls, its primary function.

Perhaps you can not appreciate the irony that a dedicated Photographers tool in your eyes will benefit from one of the best Video AF in the business, but perhaps some of the worst video features of any current DSLR or Mirrorless camera. Maybe if Canon hadn't started this whole DSLR video revolution with the 5D Mark II, maybe if it hadn't given us reliable AF, Canon DSLR would receive the same indifferent reaction to its video features that Nikon enjoys. If it is picked on for its soft HD and lack of video features, its because Canon has contributed a lot more than you think to video, especially in the last decade and that makes some of their recent failures in video the more bitter.
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