When trying to achieve the film-look.... at DVinfo.net

Corey Sturmer · September 28th, 2003, 07:18 AM

Is it better to have really high sharpness, or really low? Or somewhere in the middle? What do you do? Two knotches below...Above?

Imran Zaidi · September 28th, 2003, 09:46 AM

I do three things that tend to help me get a good look with my GL2. First, I turn the sharpness down as far as it can go without looking too soft. Second, I have a Tiffen Soft FX 2, which does some cool hazing on bright highlights for a nice effect. And finally, Frame mode.

'Film Look' is subjective, since everyone's idea of what it is differs. But what I can tell you is that the above does a lot in losing the 'video' look.

Corey Sturmer · September 28th, 2003, 10:55 AM

That's cool, but can you offer any specifics as to the sharpness level?

Imran Zaidi · September 28th, 2003, 11:01 AM

Around 20-25% sharpness. You'll have to fiddle with it to get the setting you like best.

Side note, keeping the sharpness down also helps fight grain in low light scenarios.

Barry Goyette · September 28th, 2003, 12:32 PM

I keep my sharpness down 2 notches on the gl2, always use frame mode. Also, I usually monkey around with custom white balance settings and color phase settings to give the scene a particular cast. If using a diffuser, I would keep it to the minimum you can get, just enought to take the edge off the highlights, without the typical bloom caused my heavier diffusion.

Barry

Corey Sturmer · September 28th, 2003, 09:06 PM

This is the movie I made today. The editing, shots, and mood worked out PERFECT. But something went wrong with the picture....It seems in some shots, there are different layers of fuzzed out grain, I can't really describe it...And the WMV compression sort of gets rid of it. But you can see it in the Sky in one scene, and in the main character's Arm in another....

When he's walking out of the door, it's supposed to be washed out...But can you offer advice as to how to get rid of this? This may be the editor, or the Tape I recorded on...Any ideas?

http://www.joecam.net/MustardFriend.WMV

Imran Zaidi · September 28th, 2003, 09:13 PM

Your footage looks great considering you're just getting started with this cam! The white balancing looked good pretty much all the way through. Though there were a couple of shots that seemed inconsistent in brightness. But one thing I noticed is that the balancing looked good as your character went out the door. The light all looked very natural, so kudos.

I can't really see the problem you mentioned though, on this .wmv.

Corey Sturmer · September 28th, 2003, 09:35 PM

Thanks! I appreciate the comments. I actually just fixed the problem. Turns out, I exported it as an Avi instead of a DV avi before I did my frame blending and stuff. I fixed it and it looks great!

I was using a Glidecam 2000 Pro for this, and for the most part it did everything I wanted it too...Sometimes the wind blew it, and it tilted a little, or it moved when I didn't want it to, but it worked fine other than that.

Eddie Jackson · November 18th, 2003, 01:52 AM

when using the GC-2000 how do you prevent the unwanted mvmt? I am having a difficult time keeping my camera from bobbing around. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
thanks

Charles Papert · November 18th, 2003, 02:06 AM

Practice and a delicate touch (don't overcontrol it).

Corey Sturmer · November 18th, 2003, 06:49 AM

That and an awesome balance job....It is no shocker when I spend 30 minutes or more balancing my glidecam.

September 28th, 2003, 07:18 AM	#1
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	When trying to achieve the film-look.... Is it better to have really high sharpness, or really low? Or somewhere in the middle? What do you do? Two knotches below...Above? __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions

September 28th, 2003, 10:55 AM	#3
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	That's cool, but can you offer any specifics as to the sharpness level? __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions

September 28th, 2003, 09:06 PM	#6
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	This is the movie I made today. The editing, shots, and mood worked out PERFECT. But something went wrong with the picture....It seems in some shots, there are different layers of fuzzed out grain, I can't really describe it...And the WMV compression sort of gets rid of it. But you can see it in the Sky in one scene, and in the main character's Arm in another.... When he's walking out of the door, it's supposed to be washed out...But can you offer advice as to how to get rid of this? This may be the editor, or the Tape I recorded on...Any ideas? http://www.joecam.net/MustardFriend.WMV __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions

September 28th, 2003, 09:35 PM	#8
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	Thanks! I appreciate the comments. I actually just fixed the problem. Turns out, I exported it as an Avi instead of a DV avi before I did my frame blending and stuff. I fixed it and it looks great! I was using a Glidecam 2000 Pro for this, and for the most part it did everything I wanted it too...Sometimes the wind blew it, and it tilted a little, or it moved when I didn't want it to, but it worked fine other than that. __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions

November 18th, 2003, 02:06 AM	#10
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Practice and a delicate touch (don't overcontrol it). __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

September 28th, 2003, 09:46 AM	#2
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	I do three things that tend to help me get a good look with my GL2. First, I turn the sharpness down as far as it can go without looking too soft. Second, I have a Tiffen Soft FX 2, which does some cool hazing on bright highlights for a nice effect. And finally, Frame mode. 'Film Look' is subjective, since everyone's idea of what it is differs. But what I can tell you is that the above does a lot in losing the 'video' look.

September 28th, 2003, 11:01 AM	#4
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Around 20-25% sharpness. You'll have to fiddle with it to get the setting you like best. Side note, keeping the sharpness down also helps fight grain in low light scenarios.

September 28th, 2003, 12:32 PM	#5
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	I keep my sharpness down 2 notches on the gl2, always use frame mode. Also, I usually monkey around with custom white balance settings and color phase settings to give the scene a particular cast. If using a diffuser, I would keep it to the minimum you can get, just enought to take the edge off the highlights, without the typical bloom caused my heavier diffusion. Barry

September 28th, 2003, 09:13 PM	#7
Imran Zaidi Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,315	Your footage looks great considering you're just getting started with this cam! The white balancing looked good pretty much all the way through. Though there were a couple of shots that seemed inconsistent in brightness. But one thing I noticed is that the balancing looked good as your character went out the door. The light all looked very natural, so kudos. I can't really see the problem you mentioned though, on this .wmv.

November 18th, 2003, 01:52 AM	#9
Eddie Jackson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 16	when using the GC-2000 how do you prevent the unwanted mvmt? I am having a difficult time keeping my camera from bobbing around. Any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks

November 18th, 2003, 06:49 AM	#11
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	That and an awesome balance job....It is no shocker when I spend 30 minutes or more balancing my glidecam. __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions