lighting at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon GL Series DV Camcorders

Canon GL Series DV Camcorders
Canon GL2, GL1 and PAL versions XM2, XM1.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old November 18th, 2003, 12:21 AM   #1
Tourist
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1
lighting

I've just bought my GL2 and now have my eyes set on getting some kind of light...

the cuter VL3, or the VL-10Li?

what do the masses say? are there any other lighting system - short of a studio lighting kit? (in a wedding video context).
__________________
-=Viva la revolution=-
Sammy Jankis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 18th, 2003, 02:52 AM   #2
Retired DV Info Net Almunus
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,943
It depends on how much light you'll need. The VL3 can give you just enough punch to light a face or two for a close head shot. The VL10 throws a bit more light and runs off of a BP battery independently of the camera. It can be very handy due to that independence.

Neither are powerful enough to really light a wider scene.
__________________
Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission.

Hey, you don't have enough stuff!
Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really!

See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com
Ken Tanaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 18th, 2003, 07:36 AM   #3
Trustee
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Arlington VA
Posts: 1,034
Once I tried to go into a bar to film something and everything was fine until I shined that Vl10 on everyone - suddenly it all stopped and I got the impression they thought cops or news media was there or something. It attracted a little too much attention for my taste. :) So there is something to be said for a more low-profile light. Frankly I'd get both, and a huge halogen light that plugs into a wall outlet that actually will light a whole room too.
Peter Moore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 18th, 2003, 11:06 AM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Posts: 202
My friend is still mad at me for shining the VL-10 in his face for an interview...
__________________
Catalina Productions
http://www.catalina.co.nz
Joe Lloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 3rd, 2003, 05:26 PM   #5
New Boot
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Netherlands - Europe
Posts: 21
Reduce light

I had the same problems. They either provide too little or too much light. I now have oput a very thin white fabric in front of the Vl10 and it not only spreads the light better it also helps to keep your friends ;-)
Peter Dorr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 14th, 2003, 09:53 PM   #6
Tourist
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Port Coquitlam, BC, Canada
Posts: 1
I'm also looking at buying a light(s) for my GL2. I need something for a wedding reception. I always find that the lighting on the dance floor is too low to get quality footage. Is the on camera light the best way to go? And is the Canon vl-3 and/or vl10li the best, or are there other good options/products?

From the discussion here, it sounds like one needs both vl-3 and vl-10li?
John Romein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 15th, 2003, 02:36 AM   #7
Old Boot
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 3,528
PagLight6 Kit

I'm too considering an upgrade for my VL3. It's good, but only 3watt. Ken is correct. It does close work - forget about background. Used in conjunction with Manual Focus - you should be doing this already - you/I can get some "better" results.

When the project 2allows=", I'm really thinking the PagLight 6kit. It's got Barn doors and other options. Plus I believe some diffsuing filters. Drawbacks? NiCad. You can read the spec here at: http://www.paguk.com/paglightc6.htm .

The really nice thing with this system I suppose one coud detach it from the cammie and weither you or an assistant could "wave" it about. The price over here isn't that extravagant, so a smallish project could pay for this piece of kit.

The other thing I haven't as yet ask Pag, is the option of connecting a battery belt. Oh yes you can have it with its own supplied/included 20watt OR go up a step to the 30 watt.

Any good?

Grazie
Graham Bernard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 30th, 2003, 08:06 PM   #8
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Durham, England
Posts: 138
Im one also condidering a GL3, though generally looking to learn about lighting. Im stunned by the range and cost of professional lighting. I did notice that my indoor household light bulbs give off a particularly unpleasant orange glow on film, that i suppose could be 'warming' should one desire that effect. However a cheaper bulb from the pound shop gives a daylight glow, and looks so much better. Can a similar principle not be applied to hand style torches or using halogen lamps for ameteur/ makeshift lighting? Is there a special type of bulb that one can use that produces a better light? Or filters?
__________________
StMichael
Michael Connor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 16th, 2004, 02:18 PM   #9
New Boot
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8
<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Connor : Im one also condidering a GL3, though generally looking to learn about lighting. Im stunned by the range and cost of professional lighting. I did notice that my indoor household light bulbs give off a particularly unpleasant orange glow on film, that i suppose could be 'warming' should one desire that effect. However a cheaper bulb from the pound shop gives a daylight glow, and looks so much better. Can a similar principle not be applied to hand style torches or using halogen lamps for ameteur/ makeshift lighting? Is there a special type of bulb that one can use that produces a better light? Or filters? -->>>

good question
Charles Bittner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 16th, 2004, 02:54 PM   #10
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Durham, England
Posts: 138
ive since been told that the halogen floodlamps you can buy very cheaply run at the correct colour temperature, and indeed do the job of more expensive lights??! All i need is some filter paper or a screen apparently.
__________________
StMichael
Michael Connor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 16th, 2004, 06:26 PM   #11
Trustee
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES
Posts: 1,215
When I've had to use halogen work lights, they've been better bounced off some polystyrene sheets. Either that or build a frame and attach some Lee diffuser material. You can clamp this about two foot from the lamp. A "Magic Arm" from Manfrotto is a great piece of kit for holding things like this. It's great for clamping small lamps as well (or mics - practically anything around the set.There's no point in sticking some "scrim" just over the lamp itself. It'll get very hot and it won't have the big enough area to diffuse properly.
Another useful source of cheap but effective lighting is the IKEA stores.
They've got a range of small MR16 halogen spots that can clamp on shelves etc and provide a great little kicker or backlight.
If you can get to IKEA, see if they've got the ISBRYTARE lamp in stock. It's a 50watt halogen projector lamp with gobos, dichroic filters and a lens. You can throw shapes onto the background - there's even a window gobo, which really gives the effect of light coming through a window frame. You can even cut your own shapes as required.
There really are lots of reasonably priced lighting solutions out there if you know where to look. Happy hunting!

Robin.
Robin Davies-Rollinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 17th, 2004, 04:50 AM   #12
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Durham, England
Posts: 138
Thankyou, this is excellent. I saw the amazing impact gobos can have at a seminar at the wembley video forum. With regard to the halogens and polystyrene, do you mean using a big sheet of it as a reflector (as oposed to shining it direct)?
__________________
StMichael
Michael Connor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 17th, 2004, 05:23 AM   #13
Trustee
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES
Posts: 1,215
Michael ,
I meant that you should bounce the light off the poly. You might have to construct something to hold it, or lean it against something .
Robin
Robin Davies-Rollinson is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon GL Series DV Camcorders

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:03 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network