Accesories for nature/sunsets filming? at DVinfo.net

Prech Marton · May 11th, 2004, 04:23 AM

I have my XM2 in 4 days.
What accessories should i buy?

OK, the largest battery. Many dv cassettes.

I have a cookin filter holder for my graduated ND filter.
I have a linear polarizer (for saturated clouds).
I will buy a wide angle lens (wd58, isn't a cheaper solution?)
And after this there is place for the lens hood?

What do you recommend for this type of work?

Robin Davies-Rollinson · May 11th, 2004, 04:37 AM

You haven't mentioned a tripod - that should be high priority.

Robin

Prech Marton · May 11th, 2004, 07:04 AM

Yes, yes, i have a manfrotto monopod and a 3legs cheap tripod too.

Trond Saetre · May 12th, 2004, 02:41 AM

Get an UV filter.
(A lens hood comes standard with your XM2.)

If you buy the Canon wideangle lens, make sure you get the WD58H. (This version includes a lens hood)
The (old) WD58 does not include the lens hood.

Prech Marton · May 12th, 2004, 05:57 AM

The XM2 lens doesn't have an UV filter already?
I'm afraid that to much filter/glass will degrade my picture quality, and generate more lensflare.

"If you buy the Canon wideangle lens"

Yeah, IF.
Are there any recommended, cheap models?

How can i combine my filters:
Can i use the WD58 with ND graduated in cokin holder and a polarizer? Is this not to much?

Frank Granovski · May 12th, 2004, 06:06 AM

You might want to add a Cokin Sunsoft 81B or 81A for softer, yellowed sunsets. It gives a nice effect. The 81A is less soft than the Sunsoft and 81B.

Boyd Ostroff · May 12th, 2004, 07:49 AM

If you're shooting directly into the sun then you'll need a pretty dense ND filter in combination with the internal ones. Careful not to damage your camera!

Prech Marton · May 12th, 2004, 08:34 AM

I don't know. I look at the cookin catalog and don't like the effect of the sunsoft filter (ref694) Do i really need this blurry look?
Anyway, i cut my film in NLE, so perhaps i don't need any colour filter. But graduated ND imho is a nice filter.

What kind of ND filter has the XM2, a 10% one?
A lot of light is on the top half of the picture, so i guess i don't need to buy a normal ND, the graduated ND will be enough.

Cosmin Rotaru · May 13th, 2004, 05:54 AM

"I have a cookin filter holder for my graduated ND filter"

Hey, Prech, is that filter holder "P" series? I want to buy one of thouse but I'm not sure how well it will fit under the XM2 microphone. I'm especialy concern with the use of the gradual ND. I'm thinking is not posible to slide it up to much because of the mic... The "P" series is quite big.

BTW: could you post a pic with the cokin holder attached to the XM2? I wonder how it looks! :)
(I'd also like a lens hood over that holder!)

Prech Marton · May 13th, 2004, 06:03 AM

We have tested a P series filter with no problem on xm2.
I have my xm2 only in saturday, so after that i can photo anything you want :)

Prech Marton · May 16th, 2004, 11:08 PM

Hey Cosmin!

I have my XM2 finally!!

And here are the pics:

http://web.axelero.hu/prechj/pics/cookin1.jpg
http://web.axelero.hu/prechj/pics/cookin2.jpg

As you can see, there is enough space for cookin "P" holder.
But filters. Well, with my friend's cookin grad nd (121S) was not a problem. There is about 1.5cm space between the holder and the mic.

But Tiffen (or somebody else) made a longer filter, so be careful.

Frank Granovski · May 17th, 2004, 12:34 AM

Yup! That's the Cokin filter holder. I should buy one one of these days. Has anyone found a solution with mounting a hood onto it? That's the only thing holding me back and sticking with Cokin's regular screw-ons.

Robin Davies-Rollinson · May 17th, 2004, 01:34 AM

Cokin make a modular square lens hood. You can add more for extra light shielding. They just clip onto the filter holder. Being square, they do however make the camera look a bit like the Panasonic DVX100, but you'll have to live with that......

Robin

Frank Granovski · May 17th, 2004, 01:41 AM

How deep (long) is this hood? I think I know the one and it's not too deep, unless Cokin has a new, deeper hood? My Cokin catalog is a few years old.

Cosmin Rotaru · May 17th, 2004, 02:05 AM

Thank you Prech!
Ok then, I'll order one holder + one lens hood! :)

May 11th, 2004, 04:23 AM	#1
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	Accesories for nature/sunsets filming? I have my XM2 in 4 days. What accessories should i buy? OK, the largest battery. Many dv cassettes. I have a cookin filter holder for my graduated ND filter. I have a linear polarizer (for saturated clouds). I will buy a wide angle lens (wd58, isn't a cheaper solution?) And after this there is place for the lens hood? What do you recommend for this type of work?

May 13th, 2004, 05:54 AM	#9
Cosmin Rotaru Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Romania, Timisoara Posts: 453	"I have a cookin filter holder for my graduated ND filter" Hey, Prech, is that filter holder "P" series? I want to buy one of thouse but I'm not sure how well it will fit under the XM2 microphone. I'm especialy concern with the use of the gradual ND. I'm thinking is not posible to slide it up to much because of the mic... The "P" series is quite big. BTW: could you post a pic with the cokin holder attached to the XM2? I wonder how it looks! :) (I'd also like a lens hood over that holder!) __________________ Cosmin Rotaru

May 17th, 2004, 02:05 AM	#15
Cosmin Rotaru Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Romania, Timisoara Posts: 453	Thank you Prech! Ok then, I'll order one holder + one lens hood! :) __________________ Cosmin Rotaru

May 11th, 2004, 04:37 AM	#2
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	You haven't mentioned a tripod - that should be high priority. Robin

May 11th, 2004, 07:04 AM	#3
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	Yes, yes, i have a manfrotto monopod and a 3legs cheap tripod too.

May 12th, 2004, 02:41 AM	#4
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Get an UV filter. (A lens hood comes standard with your XM2.) If you buy the Canon wideangle lens, make sure you get the WD58H. (This version includes a lens hood) The (old) WD58 does not include the lens hood.

May 12th, 2004, 05:57 AM	#5
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	The XM2 lens doesn't have an UV filter already? I'm afraid that to much filter/glass will degrade my picture quality, and generate more lensflare. "If you buy the Canon wideangle lens" Yeah, IF. Are there any recommended, cheap models? How can i combine my filters: Can i use the WD58 with ND graduated in cokin holder and a polarizer? Is this not to much?

May 12th, 2004, 06:06 AM	#6
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	You might want to add a Cokin Sunsoft 81B or 81A for softer, yellowed sunsets. It gives a nice effect. The 81A is less soft than the Sunsoft and 81B.

May 12th, 2004, 07:49 AM	#7
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	If you're shooting directly into the sun then you'll need a pretty dense ND filter in combination with the internal ones. Careful not to damage your camera!

May 12th, 2004, 08:34 AM	#8
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	I don't know. I look at the cookin catalog and don't like the effect of the sunsoft filter (ref694) Do i really need this blurry look? Anyway, i cut my film in NLE, so perhaps i don't need any colour filter. But graduated ND imho is a nice filter. What kind of ND filter has the XM2, a 10% one? A lot of light is on the top half of the picture, so i guess i don't need to buy a normal ND, the graduated ND will be enough.

May 13th, 2004, 06:03 AM	#10
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	We have tested a P series filter with no problem on xm2. I have my xm2 only in saturday, so after that i can photo anything you want :)

May 16th, 2004, 11:08 PM	#11
Prech Marton Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: hungary Posts: 462	Hey Cosmin! I have my XM2 finally!! And here are the pics: http://web.axelero.hu/prechj/pics/cookin1.jpg http://web.axelero.hu/prechj/pics/cookin2.jpg As you can see, there is enough space for cookin "P" holder. But filters. Well, with my friend's cookin grad nd (121S) was not a problem. There is about 1.5cm space between the holder and the mic. But Tiffen (or somebody else) made a longer filter, so be careful.

May 17th, 2004, 12:34 AM	#12
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yup! That's the Cokin filter holder. I should buy one one of these days. Has anyone found a solution with mounting a hood onto it? That's the only thing holding me back and sticking with Cokin's regular screw-ons.

May 17th, 2004, 01:34 AM	#13
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Cokin make a modular square lens hood. You can add more for extra light shielding. They just clip onto the filter holder. Being square, they do however make the camera look a bit like the Panasonic DVX100, but you'll have to live with that...... Robin

May 17th, 2004, 01:41 AM	#14
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	How deep (long) is this hood? I think I know the one and it's not too deep, unless Cokin has a new, deeper hood? My Cokin catalog is a few years old.