Various GL1 / XM1 questions

Dylan Couper · March 6th, 2003, 09:35 AM

Yes, if it's in good shape, that's a fairly good price.
I find Ebay prices on electronics tend to be lower than what things sell for in a local market. People tend to pay less for expensive stuff they can't buy in person.

Dylan Couper · March 6th, 2003, 09:43 AM

I'd say 250 hours means it is fairly well used. I don't know if I'd pay $1200 for one with that many hours, as used GL1's have become considerably cheaper since the GL2 was released. I'm pretty sure I've seen GL1's with less than 100 hours selling for a similar price. I'd rather pay $1400 for a GL1 with 50 hours than $1200 for one with 250.

Tom Hardwick · March 6th, 2003, 09:47 AM

Well I've tried the Optex 0.3x single element aspheric on my VX2000 (also has a 58mm filter thread). I was disappointed with the price but most of all with the barrel distortion. If it's worth grinding aspherical surfaces, surely it's worth removing the barrel distortion? If not, we'll all use spherical elements and save ourselves a lot of money, thank you very much.

The Century is very expensive but makes no pretence about distortion, selling itself on the fish-eye look. I have a Raynox 0.66x converter and that is one of the very best (and least distorting) wide-angles I have, though it's too mild an optic for you I'd guess.

tom.

Ryan Martino · March 6th, 2003, 03:28 PM

thanks dylan.

i like to err on the ULTRA cautious side when i buy used gear. actually, if it has moving parts, i generally won't buy it used. i take immaculate care of my gear and i know not everybody does. i guess i would agree with your logic about paying more for one with less hours. i should just admit that i'll probably end up springing for a new GL2, 'cause that's the way i am.

thanks for the reply!

ryan

Steve Nunez · March 6th, 2003, 07:33 PM

250 hours is like 250 tapes put through it-

If it were 250 hours with a tapeless solution- it wouldn't be that bad.....but 250 tapes through it is alot- transports will have taken some wear

....that's 24 hrs a day on constantly for 10.4 days!

For $1199- order a Panasonic EZ50 from B&H
3CCD cam new at that price.

Good luck.

Alex Cristescu · March 6th, 2003, 10:44 PM

thanks for the feedback tom i really appreciate it,

Les Hull · March 7th, 2003, 01:11 PM

I have a GL1 that is a little over a year old. It has developed a very large white spot in the lower left part of the screen. The edges of the spot have a slight flicker to them. It appears that several adjacent pixels "died." I have an extended warranty through Mack--has anyone had any experience with them? How long might it take to get it fixed and returned? Could the symptom I described be caused by something else? Is there anything I should know or do before sending the camera off?Thanks.

Les

Chris Hurd · March 7th, 2003, 01:39 PM

The problem is correctable at Canon Service. As for how long it will take, that's really up to the Mack warranty. Please let us know how the procedure goes. Best of luck,

Don Donatello · March 7th, 2003, 05:04 PM

guessing 4-6 weeks for repair if you have to send it to mack and then mack subs the work out to canon ...

3-4 weeks if send direct to canon and you pay for it ...

my GL took 3 months but that was the fault of the repair place .. they were paid by the GE extended service within 1 week of looking at camera ( they then sub-contracted the worked out to canon) but they didn't pay canon till 2 months later ...

Richard Johnson · March 11th, 2003, 11:36 AM

I just bought a used GL1 with a hot pixel in the sensor. I have to send it into Canon for repair. Does anyone know if Canon can upgrade the sensor to the GL2 sensor for improved low light abilities?

Ken Tanaka · March 11th, 2003, 12:46 PM

Richard,
I assume that by "sensor" you mean the CCD block. No, Canon will replace your GL1's CCD with the same model of CCD. The GL2's is different and incompatible with the GL1's.

Marco Leavitt · March 11th, 2003, 06:29 PM

Okay, I know I'm dreaming, but wouldn't it be great if you could? I'd love to have a camera that I could ugrade in pieces, adding a better viewfinder, CCDs, and mike without having to hang a bunch of ridiculous looking accessories all over. I guess its the same reason they make cars more and more disposable. There's more money in selling a new one than selling parts.

Kris Durkin · March 31st, 2003, 09:58 PM

Can you connect 2 lapel mics to the mic input on the gl1 with some kind of adapter? I'm looking for the cheap way to do this so i'm not interested in the xlr connector box. Thanx much in advance.
-Kris

Ken Tanaka · March 31st, 2003, 11:45 PM

What mics are you planning to use?

Hans Henrik Bang · April 1st, 2003, 03:06 AM

Kris, I would assume that your lapel mics are mono. I am also guessing that the mic input on the GL1 is a stereo minijack. With a simple adapter from 2 female mono minijacks to one male stereo minijack you should be able to get one mic in each stereo channel. I am sure you can get such an adapter in Radio Shack or equivalent.

Is this what you meant?

Hans Henrik

March 6th, 2003, 09:35 AM	#256
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Yes, if it's in good shape, that's a fairly good price. I find Ebay prices on electronics tend to be lower than what things sell for in a local market. People tend to pay less for expensive stuff they can't buy in person. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

March 6th, 2003, 09:43 AM	#257
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I'd say 250 hours means it is fairly well used. I don't know if I'd pay $1200 for one with that many hours, as used GL1's have become considerably cheaper since the GL2 was released. I'm pretty sure I've seen GL1's with less than 100 hours selling for a similar price. I'd rather pay $1400 for a GL1 with 50 hours than $1200 for one with 250. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

March 6th, 2003, 07:33 PM	#260
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	250 hours is like 250 tapes put through it- If it were 250 hours with a tapeless solution- it wouldn't be that bad.....but 250 tapes through it is alot- transports will have taken some wear ....that's 24 hrs a day on constantly for 10.4 days! For $1199- order a Panasonic EZ50 from B&H 3CCD cam new at that price. Good luck. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

March 7th, 2003, 01:11 PM	#262
Les Hull Tourist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weatherford, OK Posts: 3	GL1 Hot Pixel--Mack Warranty I have a GL1 that is a little over a year old. It has developed a very large white spot in the lower left part of the screen. The edges of the spot have a slight flicker to them. It appears that several adjacent pixels "died." I have an extended warranty through Mack--has anyone had any experience with them? How long might it take to get it fixed and returned? Could the symptom I described be caused by something else? Is there anything I should know or do before sending the camera off?Thanks. Les

March 7th, 2003, 01:39 PM	#263
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	The problem is correctable at Canon Service. As for how long it will take, that's really up to the Mack warranty. Please let us know how the procedure goes. Best of luck, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 6th, 2003, 09:47 AM	#258
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Well I've tried the Optex 0.3x single element aspheric on my VX2000 (also has a 58mm filter thread). I was disappointed with the price but most of all with the barrel distortion. If it's worth grinding aspherical surfaces, surely it's worth removing the barrel distortion? If not, we'll all use spherical elements and save ourselves a lot of money, thank you very much. The Century is very expensive but makes no pretence about distortion, selling itself on the fish-eye look. I have a Raynox 0.66x converter and that is one of the very best (and least distorting) wide-angles I have, though it's too mild an optic for you I'd guess. tom.

March 6th, 2003, 03:28 PM	#259
Ryan Martino Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 48	thanks dylan. i like to err on the ULTRA cautious side when i buy used gear. actually, if it has moving parts, i generally won't buy it used. i take immaculate care of my gear and i know not everybody does. i guess i would agree with your logic about paying more for one with less hours. i should just admit that i'll probably end up springing for a new GL2, 'cause that's the way i am. thanks for the reply! ryan

March 6th, 2003, 10:44 PM	#261
Alex Cristescu Tourist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 2	thanks for the feedback tom i really appreciate it,

March 7th, 2003, 05:04 PM	#264
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	guessing 4-6 weeks for repair if you have to send it to mack and then mack subs the work out to canon ... 3-4 weeks if send direct to canon and you pay for it ... my GL took 3 months but that was the fault of the repair place .. they were paid by the GE extended service within 1 week of looking at camera ( they then sub-contracted the worked out to canon) but they didn't pay canon till 2 months later ...

March 11th, 2003, 11:36 AM	#265
Richard Johnson Tourist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1	GL1 Upgrade to GL2 Sensor? I just bought a used GL1 with a hot pixel in the sensor. I have to send it into Canon for repair. Does anyone know if Canon can upgrade the sensor to the GL2 sensor for improved low light abilities?

March 11th, 2003, 12:46 PM	#266
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Richard, I assume that by "sensor" you mean the CCD block. No, Canon will replace your GL1's CCD with the same model of CCD. The GL2's is different and incompatible with the GL1's. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 11th, 2003, 06:29 PM	#267
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	Okay, I know I'm dreaming, but wouldn't it be great if you could? I'd love to have a camera that I could ugrade in pieces, adding a better viewfinder, CCDs, and mike without having to hang a bunch of ridiculous looking accessories all over. I guess its the same reason they make cars more and more disposable. There's more money in selling a new one than selling parts.

March 31st, 2003, 09:58 PM	#268
Kris Durkin New Boot Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 7	Connecting 2 lapel mics to gl1 Can you connect 2 lapel mics to the mic input on the gl1 with some kind of adapter? I'm looking for the cheap way to do this so i'm not interested in the xlr connector box. Thanx much in advance. -Kris

March 31st, 2003, 11:45 PM	#269
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	What mics are you planning to use? __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

April 1st, 2003, 03:06 AM	#270
Hans Henrik Bang Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Frederiksberg, Denmark Posts: 133	Kris, I would assume that your lapel mics are mono. I am also guessing that the mic input on the GL1 is a stereo minijack. With a simple adapter from 2 female mono minijacks to one male stereo minijack you should be able to get one mic in each stereo channel. I am sure you can get such an adapter in Radio Shack or equivalent. Is this what you meant? Hans Henrik