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Old August 11th, 2003, 10:04 AM   #211
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.7 wide enough?

i'm ready to buy the wd-58 but i'm wondering if .7 is really that wide?

i do a lot of rock climbing filming, where the camera is on a monopod, maybe 2 or 3 feet from the climber.. so i need the wide capapbility.. does anyone have comparison images up close, where they can tell me how close they were to the subject?

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Old August 11th, 2003, 08:17 PM   #212
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The wd-58 is a nice wide-angle lens attachment...giving you coverage similar to a 24-28 mm lens on a 35mm camera...it sounds like you would want something wider though.

Century makes a few products in a wider range...a .55 and a fisheye. But beware, you only have use of part of the zoom range with these...so if you want to zoom in to get a look at all the scaredy-cat geeks like myself down at sea level...this may be a problem. Then again, maybe not.

I'm not sure, but I think they are a touch more expensive as well.

http://www.centuryoptics.com/products/dv/camera/1.htm

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Old August 12th, 2003, 12:12 AM   #213
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heh.. touch more expensive..

i think for money's sake i'll go with the wd-58.. i've been shooting some alright stuff with the regular lens so i think i can make do well enough with wider..

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Old August 14th, 2003, 08:44 AM   #214
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I'm also wondering about a wide-angle lens. I am shooting alot of surfing, and my problem without one is this. When I zoom in to try to get a close-up of the surfer, I lose half the wave. If I get a wide-angle with zoom capabilities will I then have both the surfer and the wave? And which lens has full zoom capabilities.

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Old August 14th, 2003, 10:15 AM   #215
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Rosie,

Are you shooting from the water, or from the beach? The wd-58 is zoom through...but it affects the telephoto end of the zoom the same as the wide end...ie you won't be able to zoom in as close with the wd-58 on as you will without it. Thus it really depends on how much you need the full range of your zoom.

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Old August 15th, 2003, 08:52 AM   #216
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thanks for responding Barry. I am shooting from the beach, and in some cases, I don't need the full zoom, while in other cases, I do. I guess if I'm going to invest money in one, I would like to have one that allows the full zoom of the camera. Any suggestions? Rosie
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Old August 15th, 2003, 10:04 AM   #217
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this wouldn't be possible... the .7 number (or .55 or .3) that describes the wide angle attachment is a multiplier...ie...multiply the focal length range of the lens (4.2-84mm on the gl2) by the multiplier to get the effective focal range (2.9-59mm with the wd-58). So all of them will give you a shorter maximum zoom in varying degrees...On the other hand, it isn't difficult to remove the adapter...so as long as you're not trying to pull a zoom from maximum zoom to adapter assisted maximum wide, you'd be ok.

Another thought is that you can take advantage of the gl2's digital zoom...it's pretty good out to 40x...showing little loss in quality at that level (100x is pretty bad). At 40x digital zoom using the wd-58 you would be have slightly more zoom range than the 20x lens without the adapter (and dig zoom turned off).

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Old August 19th, 2003, 03:18 AM   #218
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Sorry, but I'm using a different camera these days, and my GL2 footage is archived.

BUT, I did a similar thing with the Raynox .3X - which is similar to the Edmund lens, and adapted it to my DVX100 with good success.

Soon I'll post the instructions to this project and some samples.

In both cases, the relatively low cost of the lenses pretty much justify their use regardless.
I've had no problems with either, and to my eyes- and I'm a artist/painter part time- they look really nice and perform well.

The Edmund glass is top notch, and I suspect the Raynox glass is similarly good quality. I have not seen any distortion or aberations in either that is of any consequence.

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Old August 19th, 2003, 07:07 AM   #219
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basically you want a BMW for the price of a ford escort. Just go for the canon you will be satisfied in the end!
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Old August 19th, 2003, 02:29 PM   #220
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Actually, this is a totally inaccurate analogy-- and I in fact drive a Lotus Elan which runs circles around any BMW.
http://www.h2net.net/p/nslade/Papers/elan.html

The Canon is heavy, big, expensive, not so wide, and does not allow you to use the lens shade. This doesn't sound like a BMW to me at all, but rather an overpriced Ford Taurus.

Well, okay.... a nice Toyota Camry.

My lens is small, light, inexpensive, much wider than the Canon, high quality optical material, and allows you to use the shade.
The DIY lens is the race car here you're talking about, not the other way round.

So there.(!)

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Old August 29th, 2003, 08:09 PM   #221
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WD58H loose a stop?

Does anyone have info about how much is lost with the WD58H in place...1 stop? Thanks, Craig Hollenback
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Old August 29th, 2003, 09:15 PM   #222
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Kenko (KRW-075) wide angle adapter

Has anyone tried the (KRW-075) by Kenko..it's approx $79.00...wondering if it's a decent piece of glass vs:the WD-58H?
How much of a stop loss with the WD-58H ? thoughts? Tnx, craig
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Old August 29th, 2003, 09:37 PM   #223
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I don't believe there's any loss with the WD58. At least none that I've observed.
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Old August 29th, 2003, 10:19 PM   #224
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Re: Kenko (KRW-075) wide angle adapter

<<<-- Originally posted by Craig Hollenback : Has anyone tried the (KRW-075) by Kenko..it's approx $79.00...wondering if it's a decent piece of glass vs:the WD-58H?
How much of a stop loss with the WD-58H ? thoughts? Tnx, craig -->>>

I know nothing about the Kenko, but I personally wouldn't chance it for a measley $100 difference, or less if you buy from one of the eBay stores like Aden, etc.

As to your other question, front-lens convertors do NOT incur a loss of aperture. You're thinking about film teleconverters that go between the lens and camera. All aperture settings remain identical regardless of add-on type -- ie: wide angle or 2X magnifier.
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Old August 30th, 2003, 09:50 AM   #225
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"For what I do, I couldn't see spending the extra cash."

Just a quick question. If you don't need a quality wide angle and can get by with a cheap 60 dollar one, cause its good for "what you do"...then why did you spend 2000 plus dollars on a PROsumer cam. I mean its all personal preference, and if the glass satisfies you then great. But I was just curious. I kind of see it as buying a BMW or corvette and throwing bald tires on it. It just doesn't make sense to me. But hey, to each his own.
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