Optura Pi questions

Philip Williams · March 18th, 2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

<snip>The newer EIS is almost as good as OIS was on the Pi. <snip>

Just an FYI, the Optura 50/60 actually do have OIS. The 30/40 had EIS.

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Chris Hurd · March 18th, 2006, 11:00 AM

Quite right Phillip, but the Optura S1 and 600 (both newer than the 50 and 60) have EIS.

Philip Williams · March 18th, 2006, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Quite right Phillip, but the Optura S1 and 600 (both newer than the 50 and 60) have EIS.

Wish Canon would just make up their mind :)

Greg Cantwell · March 27th, 2006, 09:02 AM

I haven't figured out how to start my own thread (I'm new at this). What motivated me to join the forum was to ask about the Optura Pi. My mother recently brought me an Optura Pi to put on Ebay and sell for her. I know nothing about camcorders, but enough about Ebay to be intrigued that there were no Optura Pi's for sale. I've learned from this forum that although the Pi may be a few years old, that it is appreciated. The one I've got, looks like it was never or very lightly used. It's got the manual and a carrying case and all the wiring and such. Since all these cameras look the same to me, I assumed this was just an older camera that I could sell for a hundred dollars or that I would buy from my Mom for cheap and use for family camera. From what I read, this kind of use might be doing a disservice to the camera. I saw earlier in this thread that someone indicated that used Pi's presently sell for under 500-600. My question is what value should I expect when I sell it? I appreciate any feedback and apologize for using this thread to pose this question.

Chris Hurd · March 27th, 2006, 09:23 AM

Hi Greg,

I've moved your post into a new thread. Our members should be able to help you establish a reasonable price for your Pi. As a Pi owner myself, I believe the camcorder, if it's in perfect working order, should fetch about $500 but hopefully others here will have some input for you on this.

Philip Williams · March 27th, 2006, 12:06 PM

Hi Greg, as you noted, the Optura Pi is rarely seen on Ebay. A couple reasons, firstly being that most Pi owners aren't interested in selling! Try finding a new camcorder that does 30P progressive scan and its easy to see why...
Secondly, there's always a market for it, so when they show up on Ebay they pretty much always sell. Its not one of those products that people keep having to re-list for weeks on end.
Thirdly, well frankly, I don't think Canon made that many of them.

Now as for sale value on Ebay, that's going to also be dependent on your Ebay account to an extent. I've seen guys with 10 feedback sell something for $100 that a guy with 300 feedback moves for $170. With that caveat in mind, just use the Ebay "Advanced Search" and check the box for "Completed Items Only" (or something very similar). That will pull up completed auctions only and you can gauge what people have been getting for Pi's lately. I'm gonna say that a mint camera with manual from a reputable seller should fetch between $375-450 on Ebay.

That's just based off memory from about a year ago when I was looking for a Pi on Ebay. I'd say that if one wishes to sell a Pi, now is probably a good time. I think there's going to be pressure on niche cams like the Pi as affordable HD cams come out.

Good luck!

www.philipwilliams.com

Robert M Wright · March 28th, 2006, 05:58 AM

The Canon Optura Pi and the JVC DVL9800U (a similar 30p consumer camera) do fetch a premium on eBay. I got one of each last year to do some experimenting.

Greg Cantwell · March 28th, 2006, 10:54 AM

Thank you for your responses. This forum sounds like it contains a great group of thoughtful and kind people.

Greg Cantwell

Tom Voigt · March 31st, 2006, 08:23 PM

I've had very good luck with the West Coast Canon repair.

Send it to them for an estimate. I bet it will come in closer to $200. And you should have it back in 3 weeks.

-Tom-

Chris Hurd · April 2nd, 2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Williams

EIS vs. OIS... wish Canon would just make up their mind :)

Image quality used to take a hit with EIS, but EIS technology has dramatically improved in recent years. It's now very good, and commonly Canon chooses it for their smaller form factor camcorders such as the Optura 600 and S1.

Donna Scholl · April 27th, 2006, 05:30 PM

Hi All,
Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. Just to update you on my Optura Pi, I finally decided to send it in to Canon West Coast Factory Service. Lo and behold, they were able to fix everything for a mere $62 + shipping! And I mean everything. Here's what the service details say: replaced main chassis assy/slide chassis assy/drive gear and idler gear assy/ cleaned and checked/ etc.

Don't know why I didn't send it to Canon first--I guess I tend to assume that the Manufacturer is always going to be more expensive. But not this time. I am thrilled to have the Pi back and working beautifully, and even more thrilled that I don't have to go shopping for its replacement quite yet!

Donna

John McManimie · April 27th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Excellent! Yes, Canon has great service. I’m relieved that you got your Optura Pi fixed; I know I still love mine and will keep it until they pry it from my cold, dead fingers… (or until I just decide to get rid of it, but that doesn't sound as dramatic) ;-)

Philip Williams · April 27th, 2006, 08:44 PM

Nice to hear a story with a happy ending! Its good to know that Canon came through on an older model with a reasonable repair bill.

www.philipwilliams.com

March 18th, 2006, 11:00 AM	#32
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Quite right Phillip, but the Optura S1 and 600 (both newer than the 50 and 60) have EIS. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 27th, 2006, 09:02 AM	#34
Greg Cantwell Tourist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Barkhamsted, CT Posts: 2	Optura Pi I haven't figured out how to start my own thread (I'm new at this). What motivated me to join the forum was to ask about the Optura Pi. My mother recently brought me an Optura Pi to put on Ebay and sell for her. I know nothing about camcorders, but enough about Ebay to be intrigued that there were no Optura Pi's for sale. I've learned from this forum that although the Pi may be a few years old, that it is appreciated. The one I've got, looks like it was never or very lightly used. It's got the manual and a carrying case and all the wiring and such. Since all these cameras look the same to me, I assumed this was just an older camera that I could sell for a hundred dollars or that I would buy from my Mom for cheap and use for family camera. From what I read, this kind of use might be doing a disservice to the camera. I saw earlier in this thread that someone indicated that used Pi's presently sell for under 500-600. My question is what value should I expect when I sell it? I appreciate any feedback and apologize for using this thread to pose this question.

March 27th, 2006, 09:23 AM	#35
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Hi Greg, I've moved your post into a new thread. Our members should be able to help you establish a reasonable price for your Pi. As a Pi owner myself, I believe the camcorder, if it's in perfect working order, should fetch about $500 but hopefully others here will have some input for you on this. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 28th, 2006, 10:54 AM	#38
Greg Cantwell Tourist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Barkhamsted, CT Posts: 2	Thank you Thank you for your responses. This forum sounds like it contains a great group of thoughtful and kind people. Greg Cantwell

March 31st, 2006, 08:23 PM	#39
Tom Voigt Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 92	Send it to Canon and Get and Estimate I've had very good luck with the West Coast Canon repair. Send it to them for an estimate. I bet it will come in closer to $200. And you should have it back in 3 weeks. -Tom-

March 27th, 2006, 12:06 PM	#36
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	Hi Greg, as you noted, the Optura Pi is rarely seen on Ebay. A couple reasons, firstly being that most Pi owners aren't interested in selling! Try finding a new camcorder that does 30P progressive scan and its easy to see why... Secondly, there's always a market for it, so when they show up on Ebay they pretty much always sell. Its not one of those products that people keep having to re-list for weeks on end. Thirdly, well frankly, I don't think Canon made that many of them. Now as for sale value on Ebay, that's going to also be dependent on your Ebay account to an extent. I've seen guys with 10 feedback sell something for $100 that a guy with 300 feedback moves for $170. With that caveat in mind, just use the Ebay "Advanced Search" and check the box for "Completed Items Only" (or something very similar). That will pull up completed auctions only and you can gauge what people have been getting for Pi's lately. I'm gonna say that a mint camera with manual from a reputable seller should fetch between $375-450 on Ebay. That's just based off memory from about a year ago when I was looking for a Pi on Ebay. I'd say that if one wishes to sell a Pi, now is probably a good time. I think there's going to be pressure on niche cams like the Pi as affordable HD cams come out. Good luck! www.philipwilliams.com

March 28th, 2006, 05:58 AM	#37
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	The Canon Optura Pi and the JVC DVL9800U (a similar 30p consumer camera) do fetch a premium on eBay. I got one of each last year to do some experimenting.

April 27th, 2006, 05:30 PM	#41
Donna Scholl Tourist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3	Canon Factory Service to the rescue! Hi All, Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. Just to update you on my Optura Pi, I finally decided to send it in to Canon West Coast Factory Service. Lo and behold, they were able to fix everything for a mere $62 + shipping! And I mean everything. Here's what the service details say: replaced main chassis assy/slide chassis assy/drive gear and idler gear assy/ cleaned and checked/ etc. Don't know why I didn't send it to Canon first--I guess I tend to assume that the Manufacturer is always going to be more expensive. But not this time. I am thrilled to have the Pi back and working beautifully, and even more thrilled that I don't have to go shopping for its replacement quite yet! Donna

April 27th, 2006, 06:00 PM	#42
John McManimie Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 314	Excellent! Yes, Canon has great service. I’m relieved that you got your Optura Pi fixed; I know I still love mine and will keep it until they pry it from my cold, dead fingers… (or until I just decide to get rid of it, but that doesn't sound as dramatic) ;-)

April 27th, 2006, 08:44 PM	#43
Philip Williams Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Snellville, Georgia Posts: 614	Nice to hear a story with a happy ending! Its good to know that Canon came through on an older model with a reasonable repair bill. www.philipwilliams.com