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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:22 PM   #31
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Not if you are using a 35mm adapter....
In that case, if you already have enough, the additional light won't affect the resulting image in one way or another.

You add light - and then adjust camera's exposure to darken image... the result is the same.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:23 PM   #32
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Right. And how much enough is enough for each scene? Without a light professional on location you will never know. Indie filmmakers try to do a lot of things by themselves, but light and sound are two "beasts" that it's very difficult to get them right.
If that's what it takes to get the right picture then it just forces us to become better filmakers. I want to know how to manipulate light better to get the shot I need. I am greatful that they put this feature in this "consumer" cam.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:28 PM   #33
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Umh?? Enough light to get the image you want without using gain. Enough for the current shot.

BTW, If the goal is to get as "filmic" images as possible, usually one gets *best* results (with video cameras, especially small ones like HV20) using as little light as possible - the reason for this is to get as open aperture as possible, for shallow depth of field...
Wouldn't this just add gain to the picture which increases grain? I would think you need as much light as possible but then start using ND filters to control the incoming light.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM   #34
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I want to know how to manipulate light better to get the shot I need.
This is a good place to start:

http://www.efplighting.com/
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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:33 PM   #35
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Wouldn't this just add gain to the picture which increases grain? I would think you need as much light as possible but then start using ND filters to control the incoming light.
As little as possible to get correct exposure / the image you're after without using gain. In some cases, it might be truckloads, in others just a 40W light bulb.

If you add a lot of light and then use ND the result is exactly the same as using less light in the first place.

***note: when i talk about "more light" and "less light" i talk only about the intensity of the light in a technical sense, not i.e. the amount of light sources***
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Old August 14th, 2007, 07:40 PM   #36
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This is a good place to start:

http://www.efplighting.com/
Thanks.it was really more rhetorical in nature...but good info anyways.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 08:06 PM   #37
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Just for the hell of it.
Have a Pre-release psd to keep interest up.

Iím going on Vacation; Stu has files, settings, and cam info....


http://www.salatar.com/hv20chart/hatediscontent.psd

the name of psd should give you my slant on it.
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Old August 14th, 2007, 08:12 PM   #38
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Salah,
Those green and red circles are things of beauty. A Blackmagic Design Intensity capture station is in my future!
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Old August 14th, 2007, 08:16 PM   #39
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btw, Salah, did you notice the BRIGHTNESS control doing anything?
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Old August 15th, 2007, 03:20 AM   #40
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Here's the new set-up. It's got a little bit of everything in it, strong highlights, rich shadows, subtle textures, bold colors, subtle colors, etc.

I shot every different custom image setting through -1,0,+1 in both Tv and CINE mode.
Great job, Joseph.
Wait impatiently for the publishing of your results on your web site at the end of this week.
I feel now a little guilty to have push you. Hope you don't feel offended ;)
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Old August 15th, 2007, 07:10 AM   #41
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Bruno,
It's already done. You can download it here:

http://files-upload.com/files/434996...20Life.psd.zip

You will need Photoshop, or another application that can read layered PSD files.

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Old August 15th, 2007, 09:35 AM   #42
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Link unusable (you have copied it as short text with its '...' inside instead of the corresponding long path text)
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Old August 15th, 2007, 09:37 AM   #43
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Fixed. It's also linked on page 2, btw.
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Old August 26th, 2007, 02:10 PM   #44
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http://www.salatar.com/hv20chart/charttest2.psd

guess Stu is to busy
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Old August 26th, 2007, 04:31 PM   #45
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Thanks for posting those, Salah. Did you happen to record to tape, as well. It would be interesting to compare of just one of the settings with the same shot after HDV compression.
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