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Old April 1st, 2008, 01:00 PM   #1
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hf100 24P flags?

Was curious do the new canon cameras have proper flags for a program like vegas to do the pulldown needed like in the xha1 or does it need cineform or an alternative method to do it?

And when the say a full 1920x1080 does that mean it record that to memory instead of 1440?

Also anyone know about the hv30?
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Old April 1st, 2008, 01:13 PM   #2
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There is no change to the 24p implementation in the Canon HF10 or HF100 compared to other AVCHD models.

You have a choice in the Function menu between recording 1920 or three lower bitrate modes at 1440.

There is no internal change to the HV30 except for the addition of 30p.

edit: changed "other models" to "other AVCHD models."

Hope this helps,
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Old April 1st, 2008, 02:58 PM   #3
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There is no change to the 24p implementation in the Canon HF10 or HF100 compared to other models.


Hope this helps,

Not in the way I wanted but it helps to know the answers, thanks. :)
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Old April 1st, 2008, 03:21 PM   #4
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You're a stone's throw from Lake Success, so why not walk over there and tell 'em how you feel about it. By the way I saw your smiling mug in the Print Masters group photo on the inside front cover of their new Photo Printers for Professionals product catalog -- that's a hell of a line-up of talent standing there, looks like most of the Explorers are in that bunch. You're between William Neil and Eddie Tapp, pretty good company I guess.
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Chris, thanks for your reply to my last thread:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=118701

However, my question still has not been answered. At least not clearly.

You said that there is no change from other Canon cameras. But what exactly do you mean? No change from the XH A1? In that case, great! I'll be able to get 24 progressive frames using the HF10's frame flags.

Is this what you meant? Thanks for the clarification.

Oh, and I did search before creating the above thread, but because the question had not been answered properly, I decided to rephrase it more clearly.
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he means no change from the HG10 or HV20 it shoots a 24P but in a 60i stream and needs a work around or neo to remove it on capture or in the case of HD or flash on converting.

The XHA1 does not have this issue.
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You're a stone's throw from Lake Success, so why not walk over there and tell 'em how you feel about it. By the way I saw your smiling mug in the Print Masters group photo on the inside front cover of their new Photo Printers for Professionals product catalog -- that's a hell of a line-up of talent standing there, looks like most of the Explorers are in that bunch. You're between William Neil and Eddie Tapp, pretty good company I guess.
I am lecturing at a PPA show tonight but I have talked to some over at canon video, I think they now lock all the doors to the video department when I come in, I also think they have tech support block my calls since I seem to ask them questions they have no answers too, even though they should :/
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Does the hf100 shoot the 24 as progressive or interlaced when the proper pulldown is done? I know its got a 30P or 60i but not sure how they rate the 24p mode is it really progressive or interlaced?

Also, is there some pulldown needed for the 30P or does it come into vegas correctly as it is? now sure if there needs to be some sort of conversion like the 24 needs, sort of a 30P in a 60i stream?
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30p is embedded in a 60i stream but does not require pulldown. That's because there is no difference in time between fields for any pair of fields in any frame. Both fields of any frame were acquired at exactly the same moment in time, which is one of the benefits of shooting in 30p. Again, no pulldown required.

24p is embedded in a 60i stream which requires pulldown. It's been explained on this site and elsewhere on the web numerous times before. Start here: http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/index.html#24pRecording
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