"The real-time AVCHD encoders just aren't quite there yet."
Is the real-time AVCHD encoder built into the camera in concrete to where it can't get updated or is this encoder you refer to part of the NLE process. Unless it's hard encoded into the camcorder, I would think with competition and a little time, the NLE's will be able to produce higher quality outputs as they improve the codecs. |
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I played with an HF10 at Best Buy yesterday. Some of you may rememeber that I was really impressed with the HF10 and HF100 at CES. Well, the one big issue that got me was the manual focus. Argh! It is indeed done with the joystick! I tried to get the focus just right with some random people around the store, couldn't do it without adding an extra flick left or right. With a 35mm adapter, these cameras would be fine, perhaps better than an HV20/HV30, but for straight shooting, it's AF or nothing. Image quality was decent, but there seemed to be some sort of fogginess to it at the long end, could have been just that unit. It never did seem as sharp as my HV20 or the store's HV30 sitting next to it.
All I can say is, I'm looking into getting a 35mm adapter and I'd like a tapeless workflow.... so, maybe. |
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Yeah, this is a consumer camera, 99% of people are going to leave it on autofocus, the fact that the little wheel was on the HV20 was only because HD was such a new technology, they knew it wasn't going to be mainstream quite yet, so early adopters would actually use it. From here out focus on all consumer cams will probably be similiar to the HF100.
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By the way: since the HF10/HF100 came out, the hv30 dropped in price (B&H at 780$), which makes it a steal. |
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Now when it comes to editing, yeah, that's a bit of an issue right now. I personally use Adobe Premiere which doesn't even support AVCHD yet. As such, if I was buying a backup cam for my XH-A1 I'd go with the HV20/30 for the maximum image quality and integration into my existing workflow (and it would make a nice deck to compliment the A1). But if I was buying solely for home video use, I wouldn't hesitate to get an HF10/100 and just enjoy the ease of tapeless file transfers/playback. Quote:
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What I like most about tapeless is the absolute lack of noise and the instant start/stop.
But, as I am editing on Final Cut Pro (rendering time on import exceeds capture time from tape, so I found out on this forum) and for quality reasons I decided for the hv30. But, definitely, once Panasonic, Canon, Sony, & Co will maximize their use of the pretty new coded AVCHD, it'll be a very interesting format. Can you remember the first hdv camcorder? Wasn't that a JVC, in 2003? Compare that to the hv30, the A1, etc... what a development in only 5 years. |
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I use a XHA1 and HV30. Im thinking of trying a HF100, I would like to save time on transferring footage. But im still a little reluctant.....
Does anyone using the same equipment have any pros/cons ? |
I bought an HF100 in September, sent it back, and am entirely more happy with the HV40. Mostly this is because I'm still using a dual core 3 gig computer--AVCHD just laughed at me. And, yes, MiniDV for tape storage is still a huge comfort to me personally. As far as quality of image is concerned, with both cameras hooked to my 50" plasma screen, the HV40 actually seemed better (both were spectacular).
My NLE is Pinnacle Studio 12.1, which handles HDV easily. My impression is that even people with upgraded computers--quads with 6+ ram and good cards--still have AVCHD challenges. Certainly more challenges than MPEG2. The cameras are very similar (HV40 clumsier in the hand). So Iif anybody has doubts about his NLE or computer specs, I'd suggest searching "AVCHD" in your NLE forum. It can be Beta-world.... |
Pro: you'll save a lot of time transferring footage. And the camera is absolutely silent and probably more dust resistant etc (no tape drive).
Neither pro nor con: image quality ... I don't think the HF100 is worse than HDV from current gen Canon's and Sony's, but its not strikingly better either. Perhaps pro or con: the camera is really small! (I have been using Cineform as an intermediate in recent years, so performance on my NLE is identical to what it was with HDV) |
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