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Old July 26th, 2011, 08:42 AM   #46
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Re: Canon Vixia HF G10 Sample videos

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See! I knew we could get there if I only held my breath long enough!!
I was wondering why you were getting so red in the face.

Let's take a look at your post once more: "Why on earth would slow motion be a factor for deciding? "

Now I have explained it to you fully. And even when explained you act like you don't get it. Or maybe you do? Very hard to say from that rambling.

I just hope you never recommend 30p instead of 60i for someone who is doing slowmotion again.
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Old July 27th, 2011, 07:39 AM   #47
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Now I have explained it to you fully.
As in:

"It's called Bob Deinterlacing" and

"You cannot make a completely smooth 60p from a 30p file if the motion is even slightly complex. You can from a 60i. It will half the vertical resolution but it's still a lot better than using pixel motion."

We all have different interpretations of "fully", that's for sure.

Mikko, you started by stating "because 60 is better than 30". This indicated to me that you equal fields to frames.

Then you went about saying how you can synthetically create half res progressive frames by line doubling. I was sort of assuming that doesn't count as a solution.

I have never recommended anyone to shoot 30p for slow-motion. I would recommend at least 60p. Preferably much more.

I simply stated that going interlaced doesn't magically give you 60p, and 60i cannot recreate the footage you would have gotten, had you shot 60p at the time of recording.

I was waiting for you and Eric to acknowledge that you cannot maintain resolution by doing it your way. If you want to use your "60i method" as a creative choice, of course that is totally up to you. Just like people adding grain to clean footage for effect.

But I felt it was important to clarify what 60i is and isn't. And it isn't 60p.

Unfortunately, the HF G10 doesn't support 60p, so you'd have to use another camera for that.
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