Vixia G10 HDMI output
 

I'm assuming (That Word Again) the HDMI output on the XA10 and G10 are the same.

The colorspace seems to be a trade secret with Canon though.
Does anyone know if it's 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 ?

I'm thinking about piping mine to a Hyperdeck Shuttle.

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Never mind, I finally found it.

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So what's the answer?

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It's compressed AVCHD as near as I can find 4:2:0.

Kinda disappointing because it looks like all The Panasonic camcorders (not DSLR's) put out uncompressed HDMI.

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Can the difference even be seen?

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Depends on how hard you grade it, but there sure isn't worth putting a compressed video on SSD's when you can put it on SD cards.

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I think that 4:2:2 cams are the province of pro line cameras mostly, but I could be wrong. I think video shot for broadcast is supposed to be 4:2:2 if I'm not mistaken.

I almost bought the Canon XF100 partially based on the superior color space specs, but I don't shoot for broadcast. For my work the price didn't seem justified on my limited budget.

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The HDMI standard only supports RGB 4:4:4, YCbCr 4:2:2 and YCbCr 4:4:4. See, for example, section 6.2.3 on pixel encoding on page 86 of the HDMI 1.3 specifications document.

https://engineering.purdue.edu/477gr...cification.pdf

Are you saying that the G10 and XA10 internal processing converts the image to 4:2:0 and then upsamples it to 4:2:2 before outputting it through the HDMI port?

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No, I'm saying it outputs it as 8 bit 4:2:0 through the HDMI Port.
That's the best guess by the experts, but it is Compressed AVCHD of the port.

My AC 130 puts out uncompressed 10 bit 4:2:2 which makes it near perfect for the BM Shuttle.

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I think your right Jeff.
Since the XA10 is billed as a low end Prosumer camera, I was hoping for uncompressed 10 bit, but I think they crippled it to keep people from doing exactly what I was considering...and competing with the higher priced models.

That's the same thing Panny did with the GH2.