hv10 vs hc3 footage at DVinfo.net

Jung Kyu · September 1st, 2006, 09:07 AM

hv10 vs hc3 footage

http://enjoy1.bb-east.ne.jp/~pro/h3.m2t

hv10 vs xl h1
http://enjoy1.bb-east.ne.jp/~pro/h2.m2t

Dave Ferdinand · September 2nd, 2006, 01:52 AM

I'm assuming on the first vid the first images are from the HV10?

If that's so, it seems a bit sharper than the HC3 and treats color a bit better.

But the difference doesn't seem huge...

Peter Macletis · September 2nd, 2006, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jung Kyu

hv10 vs hc3 footage

http://enjoy1.bb-east.ne.jp/~pro/h3.m2t

hv10 vs xl h1
http://enjoy1.bb-east.ne.jp/~pro/h2.m2t

OK on both videos, what parts shot are from what??? What part is from the HV10 footage and what part from the other cameras? Is the HV10's footage the first part or the second?

On BOTH videos, the first part of the footage is clearly better and sharper than the second part. If that's from the HV10, then it shoot stunning video!

Ron Fodor · September 2nd, 2006, 08:20 AM

The first part is 14 mb.sec. 1440X1080. The second part is 22.5mb/sec. 1440X1080. I thought both cameras were 22.5 mb/sec.

Hse Kha · September 2nd, 2006, 12:29 PM

Wow! Huge difference!

I think the HC10 will be amazing. Picture quality wise it will be as good as the XL H1, at least in good light.

Robert Schiebel · September 2nd, 2006, 01:45 PM

Jung Kyu, thanks for the HV10 footage.
But I interested in shutter effect and Mpeg artefacts, therefor fast moving objects would be necessary. If you come again into the shop, please move the camera in left-right direction.

Dave Ferdinand · September 2nd, 2006, 02:27 PM

There's a slight cut in both vidoes where I assume he changed from the HV10 to the other camera. It would be nice to have a subtitle but I guess he posted the raw m2t footage without any editing.

As Robert says, fast motion would be good to check out how the camera deals with panning.

Peter Macletis · September 2nd, 2006, 03:16 PM

I still have positively no clue what parts of the footage are from the HV10...

Jack Zhang · September 3rd, 2006, 01:29 AM

The HV10 vs H1 link's not working for me anymore.

But anyways, MY JAW DROPPED WHEN I SAW THE FIRST PART! If only the UX1 and SR1 have this sensor!!!

Hse Kha · September 3rd, 2006, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Zhang

If only the UX1 and SR1 have this sensor!!!

I wish an AVCHD Camcorder would have this sensor and shoot in 1920x1080 (which AVCHD can) instead of HDV's lowly 1440x1080!

And throw in 8GB SD cards for storage too! Then it would be a nice little solid state camcorder :)

Jung Kyu · September 3rd, 2006, 06:35 AM

hv10 VS fx1

lowlight

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200609/03...15_1443459.jpg

fx1

hv10
http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200609/03...15_1441717.jpg

hv10 lowllight performace is eqal to hc1

Magnus Andersen · September 3rd, 2006, 06:41 AM

Thanks a lot for posting this Jung Kyu!

I am very sure that the second part of the "hv10 vs hc3 footage" is the HC3. If you look at the white text you see black "haloing/outline" around it, this was one of the things that I did not like about the HC3.
The HV10 is looking amazing, definately something I will consider buying.
If anyone could upload the second clip it would be most appreciated, I did not get a chance to download it.

Thanks again!

Best, M.

Peter Macletis · September 3rd, 2006, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hse Kha

I wish an AVCHD Camcorder would have this sensor and shoot in 1920x1080 (which AVCHD can)

Yes, and then you can't edit or do anything with the footage.

Jack Zhang · September 3rd, 2006, 01:28 PM

^You're forgetting Vegas 7.0.

Anyways, according to the specs, the HV10 uses 2070K effective pixels during HDV recording.

Specs translated into English

Peter Macletis · September 4th, 2006, 02:58 AM

Yes, Vegas 7... but it will not be with a workable workflow speed... AVCHD will be traumatizing on systems resources and rendering power no matter how fast the CPU...

September 1st, 2006, 09:07 AM	#1
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	hv10 vs hc3 footage hv10 vs hc3 footage http://enjoy1.bb-east.ne.jp/~pro/h3.m2t hv10 vs xl h1 http://enjoy1.bb-east.ne.jp/~pro/h2.m2t

September 2nd, 2006, 01:52 AM	#2
Dave Ferdinand Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 359	I'm assuming on the first vid the first images are from the HV10? If that's so, it seems a bit sharper than the HC3 and treats color a bit better. But the difference doesn't seem huge... __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.

September 2nd, 2006, 08:20 AM	#4
Ron Fodor Tourist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1	HV10 Vs HC3 The first part is 14 mb.sec. 1440X1080. The second part is 22.5mb/sec. 1440X1080. I thought both cameras were 22.5 mb/sec.

September 2nd, 2006, 02:27 PM	#7
Dave Ferdinand Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 359	There's a slight cut in both vidoes where I assume he changed from the HV10 to the other camera. It would be nice to have a subtitle but I guess he posted the raw m2t footage without any editing. As Robert says, fast motion would be good to check out how the camera deals with panning. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.

September 3rd, 2006, 06:35 AM	#11
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	. hv10 VS fx1 lowlight http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200609/03...15_1443459.jpg fx1 hv10 http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200609/03...15_1441717.jpg hv10 lowllight performace is eqal to hc1

September 2nd, 2006, 12:29 PM	#5
Hse Kha Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 195	Wow! Huge difference! I think the HC10 will be amazing. Picture quality wise it will be as good as the XL H1, at least in good light.

September 2nd, 2006, 01:45 PM	#6
Robert Schiebel New Boot Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany, near munich Posts: 14	Jung Kyu, thanks for the HV10 footage. But I interested in shutter effect and Mpeg artefacts, therefor fast moving objects would be necessary. If you come again into the shop, please move the camera in left-right direction.

September 2nd, 2006, 03:16 PM	#8
Peter Macletis Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NY Posts: 54	I still have positively no clue what parts of the footage are from the HV10...

September 3rd, 2006, 01:29 AM	#9
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	The HV10 vs H1 link's not working for me anymore. But anyways, MY JAW DROPPED WHEN I SAW THE FIRST PART! If only the UX1 and SR1 have this sensor!!!

September 3rd, 2006, 06:41 AM	#12
Magnus Andersen New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 15	Thanks a lot for posting this Jung Kyu! I am very sure that the second part of the "hv10 vs hc3 footage" is the HC3. If you look at the white text you see black "haloing/outline" around it, this was one of the things that I did not like about the HC3. The HV10 is looking amazing, definately something I will consider buying. If anyone could upload the second clip it would be most appreciated, I did not get a chance to download it. Thanks again! Best, M.

September 3rd, 2006, 01:28 PM	#14
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	^You're forgetting Vegas 7.0. Anyways, according to the specs, the HV10 uses 2070K effective pixels during HDV recording. Specs translated into English Last edited by Jack Zhang; September 3rd, 2006 at 02:56 PM.

September 4th, 2006, 02:58 AM	#15
Peter Macletis Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NY Posts: 54	Yes, Vegas 7... but it will not be with a workable workflow speed... AVCHD will be traumatizing on systems resources and rendering power no matter how fast the CPU... Last edited by Peter Macletis; September 4th, 2006 at 04:25 AM.