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Old February 11th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #106
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the only barrier to using this on indie/negative budget shoots is getting cast/crew to respect the size of the cam. it's so small that they'll just brush it off...
Unless, of course, you are shooting a 'Bowfinger' style movie where your lead actor does not even know they are in it!
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Old February 12th, 2007, 01:25 PM   #107
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get a redrock or cinevate adapter and get rid of your 3ccd cam. :))
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 08:51 PM   #108
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so besides 24p, what other progressive modes does the hv20 record at?
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 09:53 PM   #109
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so besides 24p, what other progressive modes does the hv20 record at?
Reading the manual, the only option besides 60i that seems available is "pf24" which is 24p put into the 60i signal through 2:3 pulldown (although the manual doesn't say all that.)
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 12:07 AM   #110
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so besides 24p, what other progressive modes does the hv20 record at?
24p is the only progressive mode on the HV20.

As Jesse points out above, it is referred to as pf24 in the camera menu.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 12:26 AM   #111
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Well, there's 25p too. . . ;-) (I know I'm referring the PAL version LOL)

BTW, is there any information on the shutter speed over 25p? Chris?
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 07:20 AM   #112
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Has anyone been able to confirm that we are definetly going to get an uncompressed feed out of the HDMI when shooting? If so I'm going to pull the trigger on buying one right now.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 07:56 AM   #113
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Well, there's 25p too. . . ;-)
My apologies... I am embarrassed now. Of course there's 25p. Sometimes I forget just how large the European and Australian readership is around here! I haven't seen a copy of the PAL / 50i version of the HV20 owner's manual yet, so I'm not exactly sure what the shutter speeds will be. Certainly it will have 1/25th and 1/50th though.

For Rob, I don't think it could be anything other than uncompressed output over HDMI, but of course nobody knows for sure until the camera comes out or Canon says something (in my experience the former usually happens before the latter).
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 11:35 AM   #114
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I am assuming that is has to be uncompressed as well, Otherwise there would be a time delay on the signal. The other thing that I am trying to figure out is if the signal coming out of the HDMI is 4:2:2 8 bit. I am planning on grabbing it with a Blackmagic Intensity and I know that is what is supported by the card. But what I am wondering is if the card is recording 8bit off a 10bit signal or if the signal itself is 8 bit. Eitherway this will be a mind blowing setup.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 12:52 PM   #115
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My apologies... I am embarrassed now. Of course there's 25p. Sometimes I forget just how large the European and Australian readership is around here! I haven't seen a copy of the PAL / 50i version of the HV20 owner's manual yet, so I'm not exactly sure what the shutter speeds will be. Certainly it will have 1/25th and 1/50th though.

For Rob, I don't think it could be anything other than uncompressed output over HDMI, but of course nobody knows for sure until the camera comes out or Canon says something (in my experience the former usually happens before the latter).
I am really hoping that 25p will do higher than 50 shutter speed - 120 would be really useful for the saving private ryan style shots. The hv10 already looks progressive at 25 shutter speed
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 01:30 PM   #116
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30p via 1/30th Shutter?

In this or another thread someone has asserted that using a 1/30th shutter gives you a 30p progressive picture. Is this true?

I often use 1/30th shutter on my GL-2 (in frame mode) to give me another stop of low-light capability. The motion signature looks about the same, even for high motion subjects such as dance. The only drawback is that the auto-focus suffers.
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Old February 24th, 2007, 03:53 AM   #117
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so how is panning in 24p? will it be a little stutter as opposed to 30p/60p(which isn't avail)?
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Old February 24th, 2007, 12:41 PM   #118
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Reading the manual, the only option besides 60i that seems available is "pf24" which is 24p put into the 60i signal through 2:3 pulldown (although the manual doesn't say all that.)

Is this correct? The Canon 24F in HDV is not recorded this way on the XLH1. It is recorded to tape as 24F in HDV. It is recorded 60I with 2:3 Pull down in 24F DV. The camera does output HD this way through the SDI port but firewire outputs a 24F file.
Sony's new HDV 24P does record 24p to the 60I signal with pulldown so the recordings are not compatible.
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Old March 2nd, 2007, 07:34 PM   #119
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so i've read all and any info on the hv20. so am i correct that the camera shoots only in 1080 60i and 1080 24p?

what about the suggestion from above about 1/30th shutter. will this be the same as the gl2's 30p frame mode?

my use is mainly shooting interiors of homes consisting of maily slow pans and zooms and using the homeowner's lighting lamps and flourescents.

so lowlight and panning are a concern for me. is this the right camera for me? thanks for any feedback. =)
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Old March 3rd, 2007, 03:43 PM   #120
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The camera also shoots in regular DV mode (480). PQ of the HV10 is superb, so we expect at least that from the HV20 except for improved lowlight, 24p shooting, mike input, headphone output, HDMI out etc. It should be superb! Yes, if you like HD, this camera is for you!
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