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Old March 24th, 2007, 02:59 PM   #31
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I'm sure the actual 25p PAL version of HV20 footage won't have interlace artifacts at all. It's carried in the 1080i stream, but it's pure progressive.
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Old March 24th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #32
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I've noticed some bubbly macroblocking in the womens black coat. Is this apparent in the original footage, or is it just from all the hoops it jumped through to get compressed for the web? Other than that, it looks great.

And did anybody see the incredible HV20 + Brevis shot in the other thread? AMAZING. Would love to see the original footage on my 40 inch samsung lcd via HDMI.
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Old March 24th, 2007, 03:53 PM   #33
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The footage looks absolutely amazing! So when you edit 24p from the HV20, can you just edit in your NLE's 1080p24 preset and have it look this good? Or do you really have to convert and remove the pulldown and all that? I'm confused here.
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Old March 24th, 2007, 05:30 PM   #34
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You have to convert and remove pulldown. Some NLE's remove pulldown on-the-fly, as do a lot of DVD players and HDTV's, so it might not be such a bad idea to simply edit as 60i.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 10:23 AM   #35
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So in what case would you edit using the 24p preset in an NLE, say Final Cut Pro? What happens if you dump the HV20's 24p footage into the 24p timeline?
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Old March 25th, 2007, 10:32 AM   #36
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24p

if you dump it into a 24p timeline without removing the pulldown it will just thinks it's another 60i clip and it will want to render everything.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:05 PM   #37
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The HV-20 cine clips are not like the other canons PsF frames they are P in a 60i Mpeg 2 stream(same pull you would use on say a Sony)
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:34 PM   #38
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and.....

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I think the HDV (60i) over the Cine (24p) setting actually hurts the HV 20 performance
As for i-AF ...turn it off
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Old March 30th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #39
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Here's a clip from the HV20 and Brevis.

http://disk.dvinfo.net/public/media/...V20-72024p.mov

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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:02 PM   #40
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What settings in CT did you use for the telecline?

I have tried many and no luck......using MPEGSTREAM and AIC Full quality then CT, no matter what option I have used I still get the interlaced artifacts.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:03 PM   #41
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Barlow. No access to the clip. Maybe to many jumped on it already...
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:12 PM   #42
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It's uploaded to the server. I don't know if I posted an incorrect url or not. I sent an email to Chris's server guy so hopefully it'll get resolved soon.

It's basic raw test footage with a few minor mistakes (I didn't zoom in far enough on the ground glass to not see edge vibration in the frame) but it was still fun to tweak. It's kind of high contrast "grunge" stuff for effect. Hope you like it.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:18 PM   #43
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Barlow:

How did you set up the Brevis-- 72 achromat, or the standard ?

How hard to set up zoom and focus.

Got HV20 on order, and looking at Brevis, so am a bit curious.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:22 PM   #44
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Barlow:

How did you set up the Brevis-- 72 achromat, or the standard ?

How hard to set up zoom and focus.

Got HV20 on order, and looking at Brevis, so am a bit curious.
Actually used a step ring with a Red Rock achromat. Not too hard to set zoom and focus, but I'm pretty new to this stuff so it's not quite as sharp as I'm sure it can ultimately look, but I still like the results.
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Old March 30th, 2007, 06:25 PM   #45
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Funny. I have the Brevis Achromat, and using it with my DIY 35Micro built from plans by Redrock :)
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