HV20 slow-motion clips

Tomas Chinchilla · April 10th, 2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafael Lopes

My nose is bleeding, but it´s ok. ;)

LOL, I certainly didn't mean to do that.

Ian Albinson · April 12th, 2007, 11:58 AM

Any update to this regarding workflow after capture?

Rafael Lopes · April 16th, 2007, 12:37 PM

Ok, I shoot interlaced with a shutter of 1/100, I copied it to premiere, then I exported it and hit "deinterlace", then the next step would be to open the deinterlaced file on a 25P timeline...except that my premiere DOESN't have a 25P timeline. Any pal users out there using premiere to give me a hand with this?

Wes Vasher · April 16th, 2007, 12:46 PM

Okay, this may seem like a silly question but can you turn 60i video into 60 unique frames or is it only possible to de-interlace to 30 unique frames? My understanding is you have to de-interlace to 30p and then time strech that.

Ali Husain · April 18th, 2007, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Albinson

Any update to this regarding workflow after capture?

sorry about the delay in replying. and thanks for all the nice comments! my flow was this:

1080i60 -> vegas 1080p24 project -> change clip speed to 40% (so that one 60i field is now one 24p frame) -> 24p render

note you have to shoot at a much higher shutter speed than you would normally, because you are creating an illusion that the real motion was at 40% speed, and something moving at 40% speed has much less motion blur.

Ian Albinson · April 18th, 2007, 07:23 AM

Excellent, thanks for that info. It's good to know how you got such fantastic looking motion.

Ali Husain · April 20th, 2007, 08:50 PM

it's a 43mm raynox hd-6600, i believe. i got it from b&h a few years ago for a little over $100:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

it's full-wide in that clip. much better than the other WA lenses i'd tried in the past (which had unuseable CA).

[QUOTE=Robert Ducon;657197]

Which wide-angle lens are using? It looks fantastic! I have an old Sony but it vignette's more than I'd like on full-wide. Does your lens vignette?

Owen Meek · May 15th, 2007, 02:22 PM

nice work!

John Robertson · May 15th, 2007, 07:12 PM

It looks quite nice! the feel seems to be just about the same, are these completely uncompressed clip? wondering because my dual core didn't seem to be playing it back properly (maybe I need a better video card?)

the color difference is quite dramatic though, was this shot at pretty much the same time?

Austin Meyers · June 1st, 2007, 04:41 PM

I've been playing around with JES and Cinema tools doing some slow mo stuff check it out...

there is a readme file in there about the workflow etc...

http://file.meyersproduction.com/hv20/Slo-Mo/

Rati Oneli · November 2nd, 2007, 08:25 PM

Can someone be so kind as to post a workflow for HV slowmotion for Final Cut users?

There are all kinds of FCP plug ins out there, TMTSFree and Nattress G Map Frames, but I am not sure they are the best. Actually Nattress is quite complex.

It will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Ali Husain · December 5th, 2007, 08:59 AM

for whatever it's worth, i added the sony ex1:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=109555

Doug Cummings · December 6th, 2007, 06:19 PM

Looking at your own shots so far... does the EX offer any advantage generally in slo-mo over the HVX? (differences in theory/bits/compression don't necessarily = practical output)
Thanks for posting these

Kaushik Parmar · December 25th, 2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Husain

for whatever it's worth, i added the sony ex1:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=109555

Ali Husain,

I have seen your fantastic clips, all are very nice, I would appreciate if you can post Full HD version of same, is it possible for you? If your file size is bigger than below website is allow us to upload file up to 300MB.

www.uploading.com

I hope you will try to upload those original files, thanks.

Kaushik

April 16th, 2007, 12:46 PM	#19
Wes Vasher Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 440	Okay, this may seem like a silly question but can you turn 60i video into 60 unique frames or is it only possible to de-interlace to 30 unique frames? My understanding is you have to de-interlace to 30p and then time strech that. __________________ Clips \| Stills Last edited by Wes Vasher; April 16th, 2007 at 01:33 PM.

June 1st, 2007, 04:41 PM	#25
Austin Meyers Contributor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: austin, tx Posts: 300	slo mo using JES and Cinema Tools I've been playing around with JES and Cinema tools doing some slow mo stuff check it out... there is a readme file in there about the workflow etc... http://file.meyersproduction.com/hv20/Slo-Mo/ __________________ Compositing is my life right now. IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3596782/

November 2nd, 2007, 08:25 PM	#26
Rati Oneli Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 60	slow motion workflow for HV20 Can someone be so kind as to post a workflow for HV slowmotion for Final Cut users? There are all kinds of FCP plug ins out there, TMTSFree and Nattress G Map Frames, but I am not sure they are the best. Actually Nattress is quite complex. It will be greatly appreciated. Thank you

December 6th, 2007, 06:19 PM	#28
Doug Cummings New Boot Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: santa barbara ca Posts: 5	ex and hvx Looking at your own shots so far... does the EX offer any advantage generally in slo-mo over the HVX? (differences in theory/bits/compression don't necessarily = practical output) Thanks for posting these

April 12th, 2007, 11:58 AM	#17
Ian Albinson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Springfield, US Posts: 63	Any update to this regarding workflow after capture?

April 16th, 2007, 12:37 PM	#18
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,239	Ok, I shoot interlaced with a shutter of 1/100, I copied it to premiere, then I exported it and hit "deinterlace", then the next step would be to open the deinterlaced file on a 25P timeline...except that my premiere DOESN't have a 25P timeline. Any pal users out there using premiere to give me a hand with this?

April 18th, 2007, 07:23 AM	#21
Ian Albinson Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Springfield, US Posts: 63	Excellent, thanks for that info. It's good to know how you got such fantastic looking motion.

April 20th, 2007, 08:50 PM	#22
Ali Husain Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 141	it's a 43mm raynox hd-6600, i believe. i got it from b&h a few years ago for a little over $100: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search it's full-wide in that clip. much better than the other WA lenses i'd tried in the past (which had unuseable CA). [QUOTE=Robert Ducon;657197] Which wide-angle lens are using? It looks fantastic! I have an old Sony but it vignette's more than I'd like on full-wide. Does your lens vignette?

May 15th, 2007, 02:22 PM	#23
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	nice work!

May 15th, 2007, 07:12 PM	#24
John Robertson New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mar del plata Bs As Argentina Posts: 5	It looks quite nice! the feel seems to be just about the same, are these completely uncompressed clip? wondering because my dual core didn't seem to be playing it back properly (maybe I need a better video card?) the color difference is quite dramatic though, was this shot at pretty much the same time?

December 5th, 2007, 08:59 AM	#27
Ali Husain Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 141	for whatever it's worth, i added the sony ex1: http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=109555