24p blues in the Red Light district at DVinfo.net

Randall E. Drapeau · April 10th, 2007, 05:42 PM

Here's some more footage, this time in Kabukicho. I missed out on the cherry blossoms so thought I'd head over to the red light district :)

I shot this in 24pf Cinemode and edited it in Vegas trying to keep everything 24p all the time including rendering to WMV HD.

However, with further research, it appears this "pulldown" thing isn't just going to work automatically and you have to jump through a few hoops to get true 24p.

Here it is anyway. Colors are softer. Think I'll stick with interlaced until they come out with a quick 'n dirty way to do the 24p thing.

http://rapidshare.com/files/25353543/Kabukicho.wmv.html

Tony Parenti · April 10th, 2007, 07:07 PM

Well color me doo doo brown if that didn't look amazing. Great editting and it looked veeerrryyy film like to me. Amazing.

Mark Patrick Anderson · April 10th, 2007, 07:50 PM

Slick. Loved it. Really shows off how good the HV20's contrast is.

Dennis Vogel · April 10th, 2007, 10:19 PM

Very nice. I hear no audio. Did you strip the audio off?

Good luck.

Dennis

Barlow Elton · April 10th, 2007, 11:20 PM

Pretty darned amazing performance. Good looking shots too! Thanks for sharing :)

Barlow

Randall E. Drapeau · April 11th, 2007, 12:22 AM

Thanks a lot for the nice comments.

I did, indeed, take out the audio thinking I could save precious space.

I'm going to say that the Cinemode probably is entirely responsible for the more filmish look as it seems doubtful that this really is 24p since I didn't go through those pulldown steps.

Anyway, the important thing is, this is just an incredible camera, especially for the price.

Steven Lambor · February 5th, 2008, 10:50 AM

This is fantastic night-time footage. Colors are soft, but this is more than made up for by the lack of noise. I can't find any grain whatsoever. Can you please tell me how you accomplished this? I'm shooting low-light and can't avoid the noise. Were there any custom settings other than Cine 24p? Any post-processing to remove noise?

Thanks for any info!

Randall E. Drapeau · February 5th, 2008, 12:30 PM

Steven,

One thing I can say, there wasn't any post-processing. I use Vegas and I love it but it's way beyond my meager abilities.

This was one of the first things I shot with the cam (and several months ago) and all I remember was putting it into 24p and Cinemode. I don't think I changed anything else so it was probably the way it was out of the box.

Edited it in Vegas on what I guess was a 60i timeline (or whatever that's called) and that's the way it came out.

As far as lack of noise, maybe it's because I shot mostly into a lot of stuff with bright lights? I dunno.

I don't want to jump through all the hoops to get true 24p and I'm holding off for now on the Cineform product. Now I'm shooting just the regular interlaced way and often put it into Cinemode and occasionally make some other random adjustments. It gets deinterlaced in Vegas and looks pretty good, I think.

I think those softer colors give it the more film like look so I tend to just kind of leave it that way. Anyway, depends on what I'm shooting.

That in mind, here's something else that was shot regular interlaced without Cinemode.

http://www.vimeo.com/463565

Good luck!

April 10th, 2007, 05:42 PM	#1
Randall E. Drapeau New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 17	24p blues in the Red Light district Here's some more footage, this time in Kabukicho. I missed out on the cherry blossoms so thought I'd head over to the red light district :) I shot this in 24pf Cinemode and edited it in Vegas trying to keep everything 24p all the time including rendering to WMV HD. However, with further research, it appears this "pulldown" thing isn't just going to work automatically and you have to jump through a few hoops to get true 24p. Here it is anyway. Colors are softer. Think I'll stick with interlaced until they come out with a quick 'n dirty way to do the 24p thing. http://rapidshare.com/files/25353543/Kabukicho.wmv.html

April 10th, 2007, 07:07 PM	#2
Tony Parenti Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bristol, CT. USA Posts: 54	Well color me doo doo brown if that didn't look amazing. Great editting and it looked veeerrryyy film like to me. Amazing.

April 10th, 2007, 07:50 PM	#3
Mark Patrick Anderson New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 20	Slick. Loved it. Really shows off how good the HV20's contrast is.

April 10th, 2007, 10:19 PM	#4
Dennis Vogel Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 409	Very nice. I hear no audio. Did you strip the audio off? Good luck. Dennis

April 10th, 2007, 11:20 PM	#5
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	Pretty darned amazing performance. Good looking shots too! Thanks for sharing :) Barlow

April 11th, 2007, 12:22 AM	#6
Randall E. Drapeau New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 17	Thanks a lot for the nice comments. I did, indeed, take out the audio thinking I could save precious space. I'm going to say that the Cinemode probably is entirely responsible for the more filmish look as it seems doubtful that this really is 24p since I didn't go through those pulldown steps. Anyway, the important thing is, this is just an incredible camera, especially for the price.

February 5th, 2008, 10:50 AM	#7
Steven Lambor Tourist Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stamford, CT Posts: 1	This is fantastic night-time footage. Colors are soft, but this is more than made up for by the lack of noise. I can't find any grain whatsoever. Can you please tell me how you accomplished this? I'm shooting low-light and can't avoid the noise. Were there any custom settings other than Cine 24p? Any post-processing to remove noise? Thanks for any info!

February 5th, 2008, 12:30 PM	#8
Randall E. Drapeau New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 17	Steven, One thing I can say, there wasn't any post-processing. I use Vegas and I love it but it's way beyond my meager abilities. This was one of the first things I shot with the cam (and several months ago) and all I remember was putting it into 24p and Cinemode. I don't think I changed anything else so it was probably the way it was out of the box. Edited it in Vegas on what I guess was a 60i timeline (or whatever that's called) and that's the way it came out. As far as lack of noise, maybe it's because I shot mostly into a lot of stuff with bright lights? I dunno. I don't want to jump through all the hoops to get true 24p and I'm holding off for now on the Cineform product. Now I'm shooting just the regular interlaced way and often put it into Cinemode and occasionally make some other random adjustments. It gets deinterlaced in Vegas and looks pretty good, I think. I think those softer colors give it the more film like look so I tend to just kind of leave it that way. Anyway, depends on what I'm shooting. That in mind, here's something else that was shot regular interlaced without Cinemode. http://www.vimeo.com/463565 Good luck!