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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:12 PM   #76
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I'm a HV20 user looking for a laptop, possibly backpack contained, HDMI uncompressed solution. So, count me in!
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #77
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So how does what's being proposed differ from this...

http://www.magma.com/products/pciexp...ox1/index.html

Also, Terence, can you please tell us what the firmware version of your HV20 is?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:09 PM   #78
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that device has been mentioned already, the differences are size, weight, power, and price. otherwise, yes, they do the same thing.

frimware version will have to wait till tomorrow. im actually in toronto, and the camera and card is in LA with my partner on this project. works out great :). ive ordered another bm card and will likely pick up another camera for testing next week so i dont have to do the long distance thing anymore.

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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:41 PM   #79
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hmm, where would we find the firmware version. ive noticed that canon has not released any updates for this camera for public download.

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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:44 PM   #80
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ok, so we tried the neoHD demo, and there is no pulldown removal option for anythig but SD dv. is that because it doesnt recognize the camera? or is the demo older and not have that function?

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Old May 10th, 2007, 12:12 AM   #81
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firmware version is...
1.0.0.0

so, one would assume thats what all cams have.
*shrug*

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Old May 10th, 2007, 09:02 AM   #82
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ok, so we tried the neoHD demo, and there is no pulldown removal option for anythig but SD dv. is that because it doesnt recognize the camera? or is the demo older and not have that function?
In HDLink select the "Prefs" button, then select "Remove 3-2 Pulldown ...". If you are only getting 480i/p from the camera, that is the issue this thread is actually about. I recommend testing with a Sony V1U until the Intensity/HV20 issue is resolved.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 11:51 AM   #83
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we get 1920x1080 from the cam no problem. ill get him to check again tonight, i think he just wasnt looking in the right place.

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Old May 10th, 2007, 03:22 PM   #84
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ok, got it working.. sort of. the first several frames are messed up, not de-interlaced properly, after about 20 frames though, its perfect 24p.

hes going to shoot another clip later today. any thoughts on why its "confused" for the first second of capture?

if that can be fixed, or we can predictably discard the first 20 frames, then id say this is a good setup. sadly, my 1.86ghz pentium M cant handly the codec for playback (it cant to the BM codec either). time for a new lappy.


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Old May 10th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #85
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For playback on old laptops, go into the start menu and find CineForm/tools then select "Decktop Playback -- Fast."

Within first 10-frames the IVT is still trying to determine the pulldown. Remember this is a live ITV algorithm, the alternative is to buffer a 100-200MB for data then determine the cadence than try and catch up which can lead to audio sync and performance implications. We under most shooting conditions (particular slated) this is not an issue.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 05:32 PM   #86
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sweet, i figured it was "guessing" the pulldown. so thats predictable, and i guess that means this all works :)

yay.

we made a sample clip, will see if we can upload in a bit, its 160mb.

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Old May 10th, 2007, 07:21 PM   #87
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heres a short (11 second) clip for those who want to see.
http://www.loloproductions.com/24P_Cineform.html (160mb)

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Old May 10th, 2007, 08:19 PM   #88
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heres a short (11 second) clip for those who want to see.
http://www.loloproductions.com/24P_Cineform.html (160mb)

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WMP, VLC, Quicktime, Vegas...nothing
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Old May 10th, 2007, 08:30 PM   #89
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hi, you need to download the cineform neohd player to see it (its free).
http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoHD.htm

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Old May 10th, 2007, 08:31 PM   #90
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File works great, nice little promo. :)

Ian, You will need a decoder. Download NEO Player from www.cineform.com to install the needed decoder(s) for free.
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