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David Grieser May 12th, 2007 09:34 AM

HV20 with Panasonic 43mm filter kit
 
I bought the Panasonic 43mm filter kit with MC protector (UV filter) and ND filter (ND8).
Additionally it comes with a lens cap to protect the filters.

The UV filter obviously doesn't do too much but I mainly use it to protect the lens.

For shooting the sky the ND filter is quite usefull as you can see here:
http://www.cuttle.de/pgod/hv20/filter.zip

The filters fit perfectly, are of a good quality and are low priced.

Josef Nazdar May 12th, 2007 05:27 PM

Danke for this David, very helpful.
Love your relaxed dog :)

Larry Horwitz May 13th, 2007 03:43 PM

Beautiful video
 
David,

I downloaded your filter video and was especially impressed with how high the video quality was for the relatively small file size, essentially 1 MBytes/sec. I notice that it is encoded in mpeg4.

I very much appreciate the filter comparison (my original reason to download) but I now am wondering what software you used to produce such beautiful compression.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Larry

David Grieser May 13th, 2007 03:59 PM

I already answered that question in another thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....3&postcount=15

The answer to "Could you explain how you did it?"

Larry Horwitz May 14th, 2007 07:46 AM

Thank you very much David for your assistance. I have downloaded and run VirtualDub-Mpeg2 with the XVid 1.1.2 installer, and have a question regarding the XVid settings you have used.

To get the same approximate bitrate of your "filter" file, I set the Target Quantizer to approx 20. This yields the same ~1MByte/sec rate of your recording. I am using the "hidef" profile. I am using the default single pass encoding. The resize and sharpen filters appear to be set correctly since I render very sharp, correctly sized frames.

My colors, however, are very weak and muted. Is this also your experience, and do you use any other filters to increase saturation, or perhaps I have something set wrong.

Your colors look excellent whereas mine look very weak.

I would appreciate any comments.

Thank you very much again,

Larry

David Grieser May 14th, 2007 11:40 AM

Setup XVID like this:
http://www.cuttle.de/pgod/xvid.gif

And yes you will loose saturation but normally it shouldn't be too much.
If it's too much I mostly rerender with the "HSV adjust" filter set to ~105% saturation.

Basically my source material was already really colorfull, that's why I left it without a saturation increase.

Larry Horwitz May 15th, 2007 08:18 AM

Excellent HSV suggestion and I now have great results like yours!

Once again, thanks David,

Larry

Jaser Stockert May 18th, 2007 10:00 PM

david,

is your kit the VW-LF43N?

where did you purchase it? thanks...

Mike Thomann May 18th, 2007 11:23 PM

The ND filter definitely works for the cloud shots, but in your clips of the dog I'm having a hard time deciding whether I prefer the results of the MC filter or the results of the ND filter. The MC filter appears more natural and the ND appears enhanced. David, which appears closer to your eyes while recording? Does anyone else have a preference among these two filters in that particular scene?

What about the same questions about the initial backyard scene? The MC filter seems to grab the the shadow detail better with a flatter overall image, and the ND filter appears more vivid with more contrast but not too much contrast. I generally like the ND filter results better but wonder if anyone feels that it's at the expense of dynamic range.

David Grieser May 21st, 2007 10:36 AM

The MC Filter or no filter at all is generally closer to reality, that's why I only use the ND Filter while shooting scenes of the sky.

The filter set is called "Panasonic VW-LF 43 NE-K".

Daniele Lauretti May 21st, 2007 12:59 PM

Can you tell me where did you take the music used in the video?

David Grieser May 22nd, 2007 11:03 AM

The track used is:

Ludovico Einaudi - Fly
http://www.amazon.com/Divenire-Ludov...9853324&sr=8-1


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