HV20 back to tape at DVinfo.net

Elmer Lang · May 16th, 2007, 04:44 PM

Anyone know how to go back to tape?

I'm having trouble using FCP 5.1.4. For one thing, in the View pulldown, I can't change External Video from Off to All Frames. Nor does refreshing A/V Devices help.

Usually with my DVX100 I could just click Refresh A/V Devices and the sequence would appear in the LCD.

When I tried print to video it conformed HDV and then waited for me to turn on the HV20, but there didn't seem to be any way to activate record. Not hitting Start/Stop or Start/Stop and Play.

Wassup?

best,
elmer

Hal Snook · May 16th, 2007, 05:37 PM

See page 71 of your manual.

In short, press Function, then select "REC PAUSE" and then "EXECUTE." To start recording, press play/pause under the LCD.

As far as I know, Print to Video (and the conforming process) is the only way to get back to tape. I don't know if you're using 24p, but I was only able to get the HV20 to record a 60i stream.

Brandon Svec · May 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM

I'd just add that I have recorded DV and HDV back to tape using iMovie. One thing that confused me at first was that the HV20 had to be on 'play' and not 'camera' as I expected. iMovie automagically made the camera record to tape without pressing any buttons on the camera.

Hal Snook · May 16th, 2007, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Svec

I'd just add that I have recorded DV and HDV back to tape using iMovie ... iMovie automagically made the camera record to tape without pressing any buttons on the camera.

I'll have to try that. How long did it take iMovie to conform the HDV? It seems to take forever in FCP.

Elmer Lang · May 17th, 2007, 04:41 PM

Thanks, gents!

@ Brandon

Hey, I like that automagically! It's right up there with immediaventually in my book!

what book is that?,
elmer

Brandon Svec · May 17th, 2007, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal Snook

I'll have to try that. How long did it take iMovie to conform the HDV? It seems to take forever in FCP.

It did take a long time. I think it was around an hour for an 8 minute video. I'm using a 1.8 G5 iMac.

Josh Reiss · May 19th, 2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal Snook

See page 71 of your manual.

In short, press Function, then select "REC PAUSE" and then "EXECUTE." To start recording, press play/pause under the LCD.

As far as I know, Print to Video (and the conforming process) is the only way to get back to tape. I don't know if you're using 24p, but I was only able to get the HV20 to record a 60i stream.

so what settings did you have in audio video playback?! I was trying to print to video and the hv20 doesn't seem to see the signal....

thanks!
-Josh

Elmer Lang · May 19th, 2007, 04:14 PM

Not sure what your problem is but sounds like what happened to me.

When you hit Rec/Pause and the red light starts blinking you've got to start Print to Tape quickly or you get a message on the lcd saying what you wrote in your post.

Good luck.

Josh Reiss · May 19th, 2007, 04:44 PM

I'll try that!
and is it the full resolution even though it's playing back weird on the apple lcd monitor?

Josh Reiss · May 19th, 2007, 04:46 PM

hmmn... I'm getting an error on the hv20
"check the hdv/dv input"

am I just pressing the button at the wrong time?

Elmer Lang · May 19th, 2007, 04:56 PM

That's the message I got when I didn't hit the start for Print to Tape quick enough. When you press 'Rec/Pause' click the Print to Tape button right away, within 3-4 blinks of the red record light on the lcd.

Now, if your problem before was different, you may still have problems. But try this a couple times before getting too discouraged. I had to.

What are your Audio/Video Settings in FCP, btw? Make sure they're HDV 1080i60. Which for me includes HDV Firewire Basic in the Device Control Preset. I can't capture any other way. And I imagine holds true for the Print to Tape.

Good luck 2!

Owen Meek · May 19th, 2007, 04:58 PM

i am assuming going back to minidv tape is for archiving/storage after editing? good idea but why does it take like an hour to transfer 8 minutes?

Elmer Lang · May 19th, 2007, 05:12 PM

@Owen

There seems to be that problem. So far I've only archived a two minute short. The Conforming HDV thang took about 2 minutes.

I assume you'd already rendered your sequence, which included Conforming HDV, though it seems to want to do it again in Print to Tape. Not improbably, for me the last conforming wasn't as long, like I say, about 2 minutes.

If my assumption is right, it is troubling. Imagine an hour project...

Owen Meek · May 19th, 2007, 06:17 PM

Elmer, i guess after hours of editing it shouldn't be too bad.. the way i look at it is like having a (free) mini LTO storage. the occasional dropout is more assuring..

Austin Meyers · May 21st, 2007, 12:12 PM

i can't get the camera to say "hdv in", i have occasionally gotten it to see the stream but it's showing it as "dv in" can anyone list the specs end to end on how to get it captured back to tape in hdv? i've used the firewire hdv and basic varieties, i've worked through everything posted above, and still nothing... i must be missing something in the cam setup or the fcp setup.

also of note for a brief moment under the view menu in video playback it showed "hdv 60i, 24p, 50i, and 25p as options where it normally says apple firewire 720x..." but i can't manage to duplicate that either.

May 16th, 2007, 04:44 PM	#1
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	HV20 back to tape Anyone know how to go back to tape? I'm having trouble using FCP 5.1.4. For one thing, in the View pulldown, I can't change External Video from Off to All Frames. Nor does refreshing A/V Devices help. Usually with my DVX100 I could just click Refresh A/V Devices and the sequence would appear in the LCD. When I tried print to video it conformed HDV and then waited for me to turn on the HV20, but there didn't seem to be any way to activate record. Not hitting Start/Stop or Start/Stop and Play. Wassup? best, elmer

May 21st, 2007, 12:12 PM	#15
Austin Meyers Contributor Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: austin, tx Posts: 300	i can't get the camera to say "hdv in", i have occasionally gotten it to see the stream but it's showing it as "dv in" can anyone list the specs end to end on how to get it captured back to tape in hdv? i've used the firewire hdv and basic varieties, i've worked through everything posted above, and still nothing... i must be missing something in the cam setup or the fcp setup. also of note for a brief moment under the view menu in video playback it showed "hdv 60i, 24p, 50i, and 25p as options where it normally says apple firewire 720x..." but i can't manage to duplicate that either. __________________ Compositing is my life right now. IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3596782/ Last edited by Austin Meyers; May 21st, 2007 at 12:14 PM. Reason: add'l info

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May 16th, 2007, 05:37 PM	#2
Hal Snook Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 41	See page 71 of your manual. In short, press Function, then select "REC PAUSE" and then "EXECUTE." To start recording, press play/pause under the LCD. As far as I know, Print to Video (and the conforming process) is the only way to get back to tape. I don't know if you're using 24p, but I was only able to get the HV20 to record a 60i stream.

May 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM	#3
Brandon Svec Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alameda, CA Posts: 35	I'd just add that I have recorded DV and HDV back to tape using iMovie. One thing that confused me at first was that the HV20 had to be on 'play' and not 'camera' as I expected. iMovie automagically made the camera record to tape without pressing any buttons on the camera.

May 17th, 2007, 04:41 PM	#5
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	Thanks, gents! @ Brandon Hey, I like that automagically! It's right up there with immediaventually in my book! what book is that?, elmer

May 19th, 2007, 04:14 PM	#8
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	Not sure what your problem is but sounds like what happened to me. When you hit Rec/Pause and the red light starts blinking you've got to start Print to Tape quickly or you get a message on the lcd saying what you wrote in your post. Good luck.

May 19th, 2007, 04:44 PM	#9
Josh Reiss New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 12	I'll try that! and is it the full resolution even though it's playing back weird on the apple lcd monitor?

May 19th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#10
Josh Reiss New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 12	hmmn... I'm getting an error on the hv20 "check the hdv/dv input" am I just pressing the button at the wrong time?

May 19th, 2007, 04:56 PM	#11
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	That's the message I got when I didn't hit the start for Print to Tape quick enough. When you press 'Rec/Pause' click the Print to Tape button right away, within 3-4 blinks of the red record light on the lcd. Now, if your problem before was different, you may still have problems. But try this a couple times before getting too discouraged. I had to. What are your Audio/Video Settings in FCP, btw? Make sure they're HDV 1080i60. Which for me includes HDV Firewire Basic in the Device Control Preset. I can't capture any other way. And I imagine holds true for the Print to Tape. Good luck 2!

May 19th, 2007, 04:58 PM	#12
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	i am assuming going back to minidv tape is for archiving/storage after editing? good idea but why does it take like an hour to transfer 8 minutes?

May 19th, 2007, 05:12 PM	#13
Elmer Lang Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY, NY Posts: 319	@Owen There seems to be that problem. So far I've only archived a two minute short. The Conforming HDV thang took about 2 minutes. I assume you'd already rendered your sequence, which included Conforming HDV, though it seems to want to do it again in Print to Tape. Not improbably, for me the last conforming wasn't as long, like I say, about 2 minutes. If my assumption is right, it is troubling. Imagine an hour project...

May 19th, 2007, 06:17 PM	#14
Owen Meek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 69	Elmer, i guess after hours of editing it shouldn't be too bad.. the way i look at it is like having a (free) mini LTO storage. the occasional dropout is more assuring..