Night Filming W/HV20 at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon XA and VIXIA Series AVCHD Camcorders > Canon VIXIA Series AVCHD and HDV Camcorders

Canon VIXIA Series AVCHD and HDV Camcorders
For VIXIA / LEGRIA Series (HF G, HF S, HF and HV) consumer camcorders.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 26th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maple Grove, MN.
Posts: 30
Night Filming W/HV20

Well, got my HV20 yesterday, shot a few minutes of video to test it out, and learning a little here and there about its operation, its really nice..

However, I tried a night shot using the night mode, and while it captured much more than I expected with just a few house lights and some not so bright street lights, it of course was noisy, and if I panned the camera on the Tripod, there was a lot of blur, due to the shutter speed I suspect night mode uses, not sure what that is at the moment..

So the question is, if you wanted to capture some say average lit streets or the average downtown night scene with the HV20, what settings are recommended?

thanks
Norm Goodger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2007, 12:05 PM   #2
New Boot
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 12
I've found Cinema mode to be very good in low light conditions. There's much less noise, or grain than the other modes. The HV20 seems to either not use, or at least limit, the gain in this mode. I shot downtown at night, and was very pleased with the image.
Tony Moskal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2007, 05:35 PM   #3
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Glasgow. Scotland
Posts: 79
Yup through it into 25p / 24p mode and enjoy :)
Rikki Bruce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 27th, 2007, 08:22 PM   #4
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maple Grove, MN.
Posts: 30
Thanks for that info, 24p mode, and Cine Mode... Give it a shot.
Norm Goodger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2007, 08:01 AM   #5
New Boot
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 10
You could also try shooting in shutter priority more (TV) (non24p) If you have a tripod and a real steady hand you could shoot at 15 fps. Though 30 is much less likely to stutter.

I think night mode is basically shooting at 8fps anyway.

This was shot at 15fps and it was dark out. I think the sun had been down for about an hour, and the sky was not blue at all with the naked eye.
http://blip.tv/file/get/Road82-Weyerhaeuser2207.wmv There is a little stuttering in the smoke.

I was shooting in 24p but was getting stuck in the mud so to speak trying to do the pull down. I like to edit and it was taking me all day trying to create a file i could use! I say shoot in standard high def and add 24p type effects using software. That takes a long time too but i believe it is actually quicker.

Congrats on the new camera!
__________________
Road82
Chad Aaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2007, 08:37 AM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maple Grove, MN.
Posts: 30
Thanks for that feedback Chad...

I did some night street scenes 24P in Cine mode and it looked pretty good.. Your video was also good..

My confusion after reading here for a few weeks now and finally pulling the trigger on the camera is the whole discussion of editing with 24P, which I am sure because of the way Canon elected to do it, will be a source of ongoing discussion.

After my street captures, I did a couple things.. I pulled it into iMovie and the capture looked fine, though I didn't do any significant editing or add any effects yet.. And of course, your limited on how to output it from iMovie as well.

I also have FCP, which I got a deal on, (but use rarely because of complexity) and captured it there then using a method outlined in another thread to use Cinema Tools to reverse Telecine and then edit.. Which also looked OK..

I am assuming that the issues with pulldown come after editing or adding effects? Which may not have the same timing such as iMovie's effects.. I have to work on it some more to see what works how.. I've seen the interlacing issues in Quicktime with some clips too..

I may post a clip here when I get it honed down here if I can get a reasonable size and a place to post it for download..
Norm Goodger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 28th, 2007, 09:30 AM   #7
New Boot
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm Goodger View Post
I am assuming that the issues with pulldown come after editing or adding effects? Which may not have the same timing such as iMovie's effects.. I have to work on it some more to see what works how.. I've seen the interlacing issues in Quicktime with some clips too..

I may post a clip here when I get it honed down here if I can get a reasonable size and a place to post it for download..
True. If you didnt want to edit the clip it should play and have the 24p look after capture.

Not real familiar with the Mac side of things.

I can tell you i spent the first month learning different methods of capturing and rendering etc. There was a bit of a learning curve i had to hike over.

And i had to set 24p mode aside in order to use the camera and edit. V.S. crouching over the keyboard all weekend trying to hash out the video. Im quite happy shooting in Standard High Def however.
__________________
Road82
Chad Aaron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 30th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #8
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maple Grove, MN.
Posts: 30
well, I finally got it to work more or less the way I would like. This is 24P, Cine Mode, about 4 minutes, 25mb, give it a look and let me know what you think..

http://idisk.mac.com/normang-Public/...nd_main_st.mp4

Will require QuickTime..
Norm Goodger is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon XA and VIXIA Series AVCHD Camcorders > Canon VIXIA Series AVCHD and HDV Camcorders

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:49 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network