Intensity Capture Station

Andrew Plumb · July 3rd, 2007, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Swartz

I did find a motherboard that has 2 PCIe16x slots on it and was mATX, but it was on the 945 chipset, which is a little older, and didn't come with onboard raid controller, but it certainly would be a good solution for an AJA Xena, or a Decklink card assuming the case is big enough to hold either of the cards. My suspicion is that it could be done with a little creativity.

Hey Chris, meant to ask you about this one. Any other reason(s) for avoiding the 945 chipset, or was it more the combo of older 945 and no RAID on that particular board that you were avoiding?

Chris Swartz · July 3rd, 2007, 09:30 PM

Andrew,

You nailed it exactly. The 945 is a great chipset and I edit on one everyday, but two things, all the mATX MB's I found with the 945 had the 4x PCIe slot, but didn't have the built in Raid so I didn't go with it. Now some people will say the the onboard raid on these MB's are junk, but they work fine for what we want to do. Anyway slots are limited and so is space.

One last advantage of the 965 or the new G33 is the fact that these chipsets handle the Quad core chips more readily, so it's much easier to upgrade if you want to later.(you know like a month after you buy it) Ha

Chris

Joseph H. Moore · August 12th, 2007, 03:11 PM

I'd like to build something very similar, but using external firewire drives. Are there smaller cases for these motherboards? That thing looks pretty damn big ... maybe it's just the perspective in the photo?

Chris Swartz · August 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM

The case really isn't that big. The picture doesn't do it justice. I need to get a shot with me holding it. It's a little heavier than I'd like, especially with the LCD. Without the LCD it weighs quite a bit less. Are you interested in one, cause I might be willing to part with the one I built, if you were interested. I've upgraded since last posting.

I got the E6850 (aka 3.0 ghz core 2) and I got the Intensity Pro as well.

It's smokin

chris

The Intensity Pro allows me to use my Dell 24" as a capture monitor and a preview monitor as well, it's just an input switch on the front.

John Mitchell · August 15th, 2007, 04:19 AM

I guess one potential issue with not running entirely off batteries is that you are no longer electrically isolated from power surges and spikes. Make sure you buy a decent protected powerboard for that baby...

Adriano Apefos · August 21st, 2007, 09:16 AM

What about these intel motherboards?

DG33TL

DG33BU

Maybe it can be used with an off board nvidia or geforce video card.

Wayne Morellini · August 27th, 2007, 07:26 AM

Thought I would drop in these solutions we have discussed elsewhere, as possible alternatives to the Magma box:

http://www.getcatalyst.com/board_pic/pcie2exp.jpg
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41876
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=99632

Kristian Lam · August 27th, 2007, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Morellini

Thought I would drop in these solutions we have discussed elsewhere, as possible alternatives to the Magma box:

http://www.getcatalyst.com/board_pic/pcie2exp.jpg
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41876
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=99632

Hi,

I've got a report about the Catalyst board. The onboard power will not be enough to drive the Intensity card so addition power will be required.

Serge Victorovich · August 28th, 2007, 07:19 AM

Kristian, is good to know you (Blackmagic Design) have interest to this adapters.
May be better if Blackmagic Design can build Expresscard54 with hdmi input?;)

Wayne Morellini · August 28th, 2007, 09:05 AM

Double yes. Even hdmi -> two AD jpeg2000 codecs to usb port adaptor (or usb hard drive caddy chip, for cigarette packet size) . I don't know why you guys don't jump at the chance, there is so much less market for non portable solutions. And there is more processing solutions then the AD JPEG2K ones now days.

Anmol Mishra · September 4th, 2007, 09:56 AM

I'm using a Camera that outputs PAL @ 50P on a D-Sub 9-pin connector. Now, I can convert this to Analog DVI or Component Video. However, Intensity does not list any 576/50P recording mode. Also it does not say if I can take an output off a D-Sub connector.
Can the resident Intensity gurus clarify this ? Thanks!

Anmol Mishra · September 4th, 2007, 10:00 AM

Also, my computer parts reseller does not have the motherboard used in this design. Any comments on me using what he has.. ? This one
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...74&modelmenu=2

Orkan Bayram · June 7th, 2008, 10:56 AM

What about using compact flash memory instead of those bulky SATA drives? It would change the overall size and weight of the computer.
I found something like this, and you can use raid0 and raid5 but don't know if the speed of these drives is enough for uncompressed capture.

http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=848

and also the CF card solution could be use as the system boot and it would shorten the overall start-up time.
And also this card solution would give you the roll-mag alternative of the digital age ;)

(just like RED :))

Giroud Francois · June 7th, 2008, 11:12 AM

i have built such "transportable" system out of a Shuttle SX38pro case.
the motherboard has X38 chipset, 2 x PCIe 16x , support dual core 45nm at 1333Mhz and ram at 1066Mhz. got SATA and e-SATA, IDE, can raid the SATA.
it goes hot like hell (i burned my first box) but works very fast and is as small as it can be.
fortunately the Intensity card is so small that you can choose some graphic card with fan.
I choosed a fanless nvidia 8500 with HDTV out (component) and added a fan on it.
runing a E8400 (core 2 duo @ 3ghz) and Corsair RAM DDR2 2GB [1GBx2] DDR1066 (PC2-8500) - CORSAIR Dominator [TWIN2X2048-8500C5D] because it come with heatsink.
http://us.shuttle.com/barebone/BareboneHome.html

next step will be to add a 7 or 8 inch touch screen VGA in front so all is included and i can use it like a VCR. Just need to design a small program with big button (REC/STOP/PLAY) to use the touch screen. Monitoring can be done on a cheap 22 or 24" with the 2nd DVI output on the card.
So for less than 1000$ you got an HD recorder.

August 21st, 2007, 09:16 AM	#36
Adriano Apefos Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belo Horizonte BRAZIL Posts: 154	intel DG33TL DG33BU What about these intel motherboards? DG33TL DG33BU Maybe it can be used with an off board nvidia or geforce video card.

September 4th, 2007, 09:56 AM	#41
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	576/50P recording on Intensity ? I'm using a Camera that outputs PAL @ 50P on a D-Sub 9-pin connector. Now, I can convert this to Analog DVI or Component Video. However, Intensity does not list any 576/50P recording mode. Also it does not say if I can take an output off a D-Sub connector. Can the resident Intensity gurus clarify this ? Thanks!

September 4th, 2007, 10:00 AM	#42
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Asus P5GC-MX Also, my computer parts reseller does not have the motherboard used in this design. Any comments on me using what he has.. ? This one http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1...74&modelmenu=2

July 3rd, 2007, 09:30 PM	#32
Chris Swartz Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 58	Andrew, You nailed it exactly. The 945 is a great chipset and I edit on one everyday, but two things, all the mATX MB's I found with the 945 had the 4x PCIe slot, but didn't have the built in Raid so I didn't go with it. Now some people will say the the onboard raid on these MB's are junk, but they work fine for what we want to do. Anyway slots are limited and so is space. One last advantage of the 965 or the new G33 is the fact that these chipsets handle the Quad core chips more readily, so it's much easier to upgrade if you want to later.(you know like a month after you buy it) Ha Chris

August 12th, 2007, 03:11 PM	#33
Joseph H. Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362	I'd like to build something very similar, but using external firewire drives. Are there smaller cases for these motherboards? That thing looks pretty damn big ... maybe it's just the perspective in the photo?

August 13th, 2007, 08:49 PM	#34
Chris Swartz Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 58	The case really isn't that big. The picture doesn't do it justice. I need to get a shot with me holding it. It's a little heavier than I'd like, especially with the LCD. Without the LCD it weighs quite a bit less. Are you interested in one, cause I might be willing to part with the one I built, if you were interested. I've upgraded since last posting. I got the E6850 (aka 3.0 ghz core 2) and I got the Intensity Pro as well. It's smokin chris The Intensity Pro allows me to use my Dell 24" as a capture monitor and a preview monitor as well, it's just an input switch on the front.

August 15th, 2007, 04:19 AM	#35
John Mitchell Contributor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 873	I guess one potential issue with not running entirely off batteries is that you are no longer electrically isolated from power surges and spikes. Make sure you buy a decent protected powerboard for that baby...

August 27th, 2007, 07:26 AM	#37
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Thought I would drop in these solutions we have discussed elsewhere, as possible alternatives to the Magma box: http://www.getcatalyst.com/board_pic/pcie2exp.jpg http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41876 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=99632

August 28th, 2007, 07:19 AM	#39
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	Kristian, is good to know you (Blackmagic Design) have interest to this adapters. May be better if Blackmagic Design can build Expresscard54 with hdmi input?;)

August 28th, 2007, 09:05 AM	#40
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Double yes. Even hdmi -> two AD jpeg2000 codecs to usb port adaptor (or usb hard drive caddy chip, for cigarette packet size) . I don't know why you guys don't jump at the chance, there is so much less market for non portable solutions. And there is more processing solutions then the AD JPEG2K ones now days.

June 7th, 2008, 10:56 AM	#43
Orkan Bayram New Boot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Istanbul Posts: 9	What about using compact flash memory instead of those bulky SATA drives? It would change the overall size and weight of the computer. I found something like this, and you can use raid0 and raid5 but don't know if the speed of these drives is enough for uncompressed capture. http://www.geekstuff4u.com/product_i...roducts_id=848 and also the CF card solution could be use as the system boot and it would shorten the overall start-up time. And also this card solution would give you the roll-mag alternative of the digital age ;) (just like RED :))

June 7th, 2008, 11:12 AM	#44
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	i have built such "transportable" system out of a Shuttle SX38pro case. the motherboard has X38 chipset, 2 x PCIe 16x , support dual core 45nm at 1333Mhz and ram at 1066Mhz. got SATA and e-SATA, IDE, can raid the SATA. it goes hot like hell (i burned my first box) but works very fast and is as small as it can be. fortunately the Intensity card is so small that you can choose some graphic card with fan. I choosed a fanless nvidia 8500 with HDTV out (component) and added a fan on it. runing a E8400 (core 2 duo @ 3ghz) and Corsair RAM DDR2 2GB [1GBx2] DDR1066 (PC2-8500) - CORSAIR Dominator [TWIN2X2048-8500C5D] because it come with heatsink. http://us.shuttle.com/barebone/BareboneHome.html next step will be to add a 7 or 8 inch touch screen VGA in front so all is included and i can use it like a VCR. Just need to design a small program with big button (REC/STOP/PLAY) to use the touch screen. Monitoring can be done on a cheap 22 or 24" with the 2nd DVI output on the card. So for less than 1000$ you got an HD recorder.