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Old October 18th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #31
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Re: XA10 noisy case

Rainer, the problem is not shotgun mic noise, you didn't read the thread all the way. Go back further. The problem was a complaint that the camera was noisy when it was squeezed. The solution was to stop squeezing it.

The Rode mic thing was an aside, not related to the original issue.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 06:30 AM   #32
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An interesting DIY solution to reduce coupling of handling noise to an attached mic. Maybe add a bit of black magic marker to make the rubber bands less obvious to others if used in a professional/paid environment where looks count. (Or maybe other can't see them when in the wild.)

One lesson learned in the early days of the XL1 series was to be sure to NOT over-tighten the mic clamp screw. If the rubber in the mount is compressed too much it will increase mechanical coupling of handling noises to the mic body.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 07:35 AM   #33
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Don, should we (I) loosen the mic holder screw between shoots, I wonder? Hmmm, I'm going to go loosen mine now just to be safe.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 04:36 PM   #34
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Re: XA10 noisy case

Ok, i did not read through everything. I know that the loose mic switches on the xa10 is a big problem, that is why I posted.
it is possible to confuse the loose audio switches with case noises.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #35
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His video showed him squeezing the camera, and pushing in on the sides of it, it was pretty clear it was not the rattling, but hey, you tried to help!
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Old October 19th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #36
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Don, should we (I) loosen the mic holder screw between shoots,
The issue is that the mic clamp screw should be just tight enough to hold the mic so it doesn't flop or slide out. If you tighten it too much the rubber becomes compressed and no longer provides the damping/isolation. Some people would tighten it as if it was a lug nut, and with a full size mic barrel it would compress the damping material to the point of coupling body noises to the mic.

I remove the mic when I pack the camcorder at the end of a shoot.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 07:51 PM   #37
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His video showed him squeezing the camera, and pushing in on the sides of it, it was pretty clear it was not the rattling...
It definitely rattles. The handle makes two distinct rattle noises when I shake it in a weird way and I already knew about that when I bought it and can live with it. Someday when the warranty expires I'll probably crack it open and put some tape on whatever is rattling.

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...but hey, you tried to help!
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Old October 20th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #38
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Yes the camera rattles if you shake it but that is not what you were complaining about originally, is the point, unless I missed something.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 11:08 AM   #39
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You are correct.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #40
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As you say, It does rattle, but only if you shake it. I remember when I got the camera, I couldn't make the noise without shaking the sh_t out of it. It made me wonder, what in the heck do people plan to do with the camera when they are shooting, shake it?

If I'm shooting something where I'm moving that much, the footage would be not be any good anyway.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 12:15 PM   #41
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This is just a guess. The early videos I saw of this camera in action were people riding skateboards. Seems in that situation the wheels rolling are going to cause a lot more noise than a rattle so it wouldn't matter much. And as you pointed out, when you know about something you'll tend to focus on it and that would seem to be the case. I agree that it takes some doing (mishandling?) to make it rattle. If I'm really moving about I'm probably making more noise than the camera would. In situations where it could rattle then I'll likely have off-camera audio or music or something.
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Old October 20th, 2011, 12:24 PM   #42
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I agree with you.
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