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Steve Kimmel November 26th, 2016 12:50 PM

XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
As I understand it, the XC10 will output 10-bit from its HDMI. Has anyone compared internal 8-bit to external 10-bit recording?

Thanks.

Gary Huff November 27th, 2016 11:40 AM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
It does not output 10-bit.

Steve Kimmel November 27th, 2016 12:07 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff (Post 1924067)
It does not output 10-bit.

Oh, didn't realize. I head read several posts where Canon had stated it did, but probably wrong?

Gary Huff November 27th, 2016 12:08 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kimmel (Post 1924070)
I head read several posts where Canon had stated it did, but probably wrong?

Which posts were these?

Steve Kimmel November 27th, 2016 12:51 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Huff (Post 1924071)
Which posts were these?

I'll search for them. While I'm looking: do you have the XC10 that you can test this with?

Gary Huff November 27th, 2016 12:53 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kimmel (Post 1924077)
While I'm looking: do you have the XC10 that you can test this with?

I could do this Tuesday, but what kind of tests would be needed exactly?

Steve Kimmel November 29th, 2016 04:42 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Here is what I saw about 10-bit:

Canon XC10 extensive camera REVIEW
https://www.cinema5d.com/canon-xc10-...era-announced/


But... on another forum, someone showed a screenshot that shows only 8-bit output.

So, Gary, if you connect up to a shogun etc., looks like it it's only 8-bit. Can you confirm?

Gary Huff November 29th, 2016 05:40 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kimmel (Post 1924170)
Here is what I saw about 10-bit:

Neither Gadgetflux or Cinema5D are what I would call authorities on the topic.

Quote:

So, Gary, if you connect up to a shogun etc., looks like it it's only 8-bit. Can you confirm?
How would I confirm if the signal is 8-bit on a Shogun?

Steve Kimmel November 29th, 2016 06:42 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
I agree. That is why I questioned whether it's 10-bit or not.

I think that some external recorders will tell you whether it is receiving 10-bit or 8-bit, no?

Gary Huff November 29th, 2016 06:43 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Kimmel (Post 1924178)
I think that some external recorders will tell you whether it is receiving 10-bit or 8-bit, no?

The Shogun does not.

Steve Kimmel November 29th, 2016 06:50 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Thanks Gary.

Marcello Mazzilli January 14th, 2017 06:31 AM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
So... Does it have EXTERNAL 4k 10bit 422 output in the end or not?

B&H says 8bit (here in SPECS https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...c013_xc10.html)

I couldn't find any official 10bit statement, allthough Canon says that XC15 gives an image like C300 MII (that is 10bit).

Gary Huff January 14th, 2017 09:00 AM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcello Mazzilli (Post 1926402)
I couldn't find any official 10bit statement, allthough Canon says that XC15 gives an image like C300 MII (that is 10bit).

The image is similar in color, even the "Production Camera" color profile is included (i.e. the Alexa profile). You're reading far too much into that statement to believe Canon means it is 10-bit. The image from the XCS15 is and always will be 8-bit.

Marcello Mazzilli January 14th, 2017 12:30 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Thanks Gary also for the answers in the other pages

Marcello Mazzilli January 14th, 2017 12:36 PM

Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording
 
Thanks Gary also for the answers in the other pages


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