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Old November 26th, 2016, 11:50 AM   #1
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XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording

As I understand it, the XC10 will output 10-bit from its HDMI. Has anyone compared internal 8-bit to external 10-bit recording?

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Old November 27th, 2016, 10:40 AM   #2
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It does not output 10-bit.
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Old November 27th, 2016, 11:07 AM   #3
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It does not output 10-bit.
Oh, didn't realize. I head read several posts where Canon had stated it did, but probably wrong?
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Old November 27th, 2016, 11:08 AM   #4
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I head read several posts where Canon had stated it did, but probably wrong?
Which posts were these?
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Old November 27th, 2016, 11:51 AM   #5
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Which posts were these?
I'll search for them. While I'm looking: do you have the XC10 that you can test this with?
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Old November 27th, 2016, 11:53 AM   #6
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While I'm looking: do you have the XC10 that you can test this with?
I could do this Tuesday, but what kind of tests would be needed exactly?
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Old November 29th, 2016, 03:42 PM   #7
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Re: XC10 or XC15 - internal vs external (10-bit?) recording

Here is what I saw about 10-bit:

Canon XC10 extensive camera REVIEW
https://www.cinema5d.com/canon-xc10-...era-announced/


But... on another forum, someone showed a screenshot that shows only 8-bit output.

So, Gary, if you connect up to a shogun etc., looks like it it's only 8-bit. Can you confirm?
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Old November 29th, 2016, 04:40 PM   #8
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Here is what I saw about 10-bit:
Neither Gadgetflux or Cinema5D are what I would call authorities on the topic.

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So, Gary, if you connect up to a shogun etc., looks like it it's only 8-bit. Can you confirm?
How would I confirm if the signal is 8-bit on a Shogun?
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Old November 29th, 2016, 05:42 PM   #9
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I agree. That is why I questioned whether it's 10-bit or not.

I think that some external recorders will tell you whether it is receiving 10-bit or 8-bit, no?
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Old November 29th, 2016, 05:43 PM   #10
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I think that some external recorders will tell you whether it is receiving 10-bit or 8-bit, no?
The Shogun does not.
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Old November 29th, 2016, 05:50 PM   #11
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Thanks Gary.
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Old January 14th, 2017, 05:31 AM   #12
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So... Does it have EXTERNAL 4k 10bit 422 output in the end or not?

B&H says 8bit (here in SPECS https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...c013_xc10.html)

I couldn't find any official 10bit statement, allthough Canon says that XC15 gives an image like C300 MII (that is 10bit).
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I couldn't find any official 10bit statement, allthough Canon says that XC15 gives an image like C300 MII (that is 10bit).
The image is similar in color, even the "Production Camera" color profile is included (i.e. the Alexa profile). You're reading far too much into that statement to believe Canon means it is 10-bit. The image from the XCS15 is and always will be 8-bit.
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Thanks Gary also for the answers in the other pages
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Old January 14th, 2017, 11:36 AM   #15
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Thanks Gary also for the answers in the other pages
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