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Old February 17th, 2011, 01:32 PM   #256
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I am very interested to hear some first hand experience of the XF100.

Still finding my XF300 a bit too big to be practical for my needs (travel outside UK) and am still wondering about a downgrade to the XF100.
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Old February 17th, 2011, 03:47 PM   #257
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Long overdue

Thanks Andy for letting us in on your inspiring dates with the XF100/105. You posed the question: “…does anyone know, can you review the last clip whilst still in camera mode or not?”

I think you can, at least in normal recording mode. It’s described in the manual (NTSC) on page 87.

Link to the NTSC XF100/105 manual:
Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF100

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Old February 17th, 2011, 04:29 PM   #258
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Our 1st XF100 just arrived (sorry, already taken by one of our fellow posters) and expect some 105s tommorow.....

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Old February 17th, 2011, 06:03 PM   #259
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I know it's very early days but if anyone who gets an XF100/05 and also has an XF300 can you make some comments on how much they differ quality wise. I know it's going to be a bit but if it's only a tiny bit then I might well downgrade to an XF100 for the portability.
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Old February 17th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #260
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Our 1st XF100 just arrived (sorry, already taken by one of our fellow posters) and expect some 105s tommorow.....

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Yes! Yes! Yes! It is going to a member of our team. I get my turn on Wed. If anyone wants any particular tests I would be happy, work permitting, to to do them.

BTW: Working with Jim Martin and FilmTools was great, a smaller house that caters to working cinematographers.

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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:26 PM   #261
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Thanks Andy for letting us in on your inspiring dates with the XF100/105. You posed the question: “…does anyone know, can you review the last clip whilst still in camera mode or not?”

I think you can, at least in normal recording mode. It’s described in the manual (NTSC) on page 87.

Link to the NTSC XF100/105 manual:
Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF100

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thank you for providing a link to the needed info.

i see in the manual pg87 that the last clip is accessible. terrific.

does anyone know if when accessing the clip there is also audio from that clip?

i believe there was a similar issue raised when the xf305/300 was released and-i could be wrong-but the last clip did not come with audio.

as i said, i could be wrong but i do remember the issue being raised.

i look forward to anybody who can confirm that that last clip can be reviewed AND reviewed with audio.

thanks in advance to all who care to share.

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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:24 AM   #262
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Thanks Andy for letting us in on your inspiring dates with the XF100/105. You posed the question: “…does anyone know, can you review the last clip whilst still in camera mode or not?”

I think you can, at least in normal recording mode. It’s described in the manual (NTSC)
Link to the NTSC XF100/105 manual:
Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF100

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Just curious about the reference to ntsc; isn't the xf100 multi-standard (50/60)?
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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:32 AM   #263
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No, unfortunately that takes a service center upgrade.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:41 AM   #264
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PDF manuals

You’re right Rob, there is also no audio on XF300/305, when reviewing last clip in Camera mode.

From page 87 in the XF100/105 NTSC manual:

“When the camcorder is in [CAMERA] mode, you can review the last clip that was recorded…………….
After you finish recording, press the [<] button.
The last clip that was recorded is played back without audio for the selected duration.”

To playback clips with audio, you have to switch operating mode from Camera to Media (Page 110)

PDF manuals are extremely quick. (click find)

The PAL manual is not on the canon website yet

Link to XF100/105 NTSC manual:
Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF100
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Old February 19th, 2011, 09:29 AM   #265
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Just curious about the reference to ntsc; isn't the xf100 multi-standard (50/60)?
Neither is the XF300/05.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 04:11 PM   #266
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You’re right Rob, there is also no audio on XF300/305, when reviewing last clip in Camera mode.

From page 87 in the XF100/105 NTSC manual:

“When the camcorder is in [CAMERA] mode, you can review the last clip that was recorded…………….
After you finish recording, press the [<] button.
The last clip that was recorded is played back without audio for the selected duration.”

To playback clips with audio, you have to switch operating mode from Camera to Media (Page 110)

PDF manuals are extremely quick. (click find)

The PAL manual is not on the canon website yet

Link to XF100/105 NTSC manual:
Canon U.S.A. : Professional Imaging Products : XF100
flemming-

thanks for the info.

i'm not sure why the good folks at canon would not include audio in the "clip review".

there are times i truly believe that engineers & salespeople develop these cameras and not working film-makers.

ymmv

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Old February 22nd, 2011, 08:36 AM   #267
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Re: Canon introduces XF105 and XF100

XF105 ungraded. A commercial piece about light systems, but the indoor shots of the light are at 24db and also show lens flare resistance.


Our team's XF100 is supposed to arrive today. Hopefully, I will get my hands on it soon and post some test shots. Anxious to test the audio preamps also, heard they are better than most.
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 08:03 PM   #268
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Re: Canon introduces XF105 and XF100

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Our team's XF100 is supposed to arrive today. Hopefully, I will get my hands on it soon and post some test shots. Anxious to test the audio preamps also, heard they are better than most.
My XF100 shipped today from Adorama. I'm really getting tired of reading the manual!
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 09:24 AM   #269
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Re: Canon introduces XF105 and XF100

I have to say this camera is looking to be quite the tool for $3000. The comparison to the DVX-100 might be true for the HD era. The size is really welcomed for a lower priced camera as the EX-1/XF-300 size is just too big & heavy to handhold for a long time.

The infrared feature in the Canon line is really smart. Canon seems to on a roll with this line.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 10:36 AM   #270
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as the EX-1/XF-300 size is just too big & heavy to handhold for a long time.

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couldn't agree more as a EX1r owner....
no matter what, still too heavy, although splendid image and on a class if its own for low light
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