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Mickey Mackwan · July 30th, 2007, 03:37 AM

i am a new proud owner of xha1 have been reading this forum since a few months and have got a lot of useful information regarding xha1.
i am no pro in this field this is my first camera and so please forgive if anything is too dumb.....
problems i am facing

when i connect the camera via firewire cable to my pc and turn the camera to ext cont i dont hear any noise ( normally heard when installed new device)
i had windows vista and tried on windows movie maker and adobe premier pro cs3 but with no luck none of them even sees that the camera is connected
phoned up the canon and they said that the firewire port might not be working rite, so went out and bought a new external case for a dvd drive with firewire port that worked as soon as i plugged in without a problem.
does any settings has to be changed on the camera ??
do you guys think that the firewire port on camera is faulty ??
any help would be greatly appriciatead thanks to all of you

Sven Ohrvik · July 30th, 2007, 03:58 AM

Sorry if I misunderstand, but are you trying to capture previously recorded material from tape to the computer?
(In this case, the A1 shall be in VCR/PLAY mode not EXT).

Bw
Sven

Mickey Mackwan · July 30th, 2007, 04:05 AM

thanks sven i have tried that too but without any luck....i even have installed xp now and still cant get the camera connected, are there any settings on the camera that has to be changed for connecting it to computer ??

Piotr Wozniacki · July 30th, 2007, 04:13 AM

Mickey, I take it you have the SP2 installed?

Mickey Mackwan · July 30th, 2007, 04:14 AM

yes i have sp2 installed...cant i just use movie maker in xp to capture the video?? that too is not working at the present it says no video capturing device is detected, now when adobe pp is running and i go to capture and turn the camera on the computer acknowledges that some device is turned on by that sound...... but still cant see the camera and pp says cant activate recorder try reseting the camera but when i reset no progress same thing..........please help

Brendan Kelleher · July 30th, 2007, 08:06 AM

Mickey,

I'm a new xha1 owner (10 days) and am enjoying a steep learning curve, and then a dip, and then a rise.....etc.etc. But, I think Sven has seen your problem which is simply to have the camera set to "vcr/play" for capture not "ext cont". Trust me, do not go to ext cont. for what you are trying to do.

Set the camera to vcr/play, then try to capture your material,....please let us know how you go.

Regards,

Brendan

Steven Taylor · July 30th, 2007, 09:17 AM

Another thing to check (which stumped me as a new A1 owner last week!) is the automatic downcovert to SD mode when you are trying to connect to the camera in HD mode.

So in VCR/PLAY mode make sure HD DOWN-CONV mode is set to off.. I can't remember which menu it's in but you'll find it.

I'm using a Mac, but I found that both iMovie and FCP wouldn't see the camera when they were loaded with HD projects, and it was seeing an SD feed from the firewire.

I've not tested this idea thoroughly, but everything started working fine once I changed this setting ;)

Mickey Mackwan · July 30th, 2007, 10:43 AM

thanks brenden yes i have tried the vcr/play mode but it didnt help..am gonna try a few other things
thanks steven i know where the setting for HD DOWN-CONV are and will see that they are off......thanks for the help i will keep u guys posted as the problem is solved..... is there any way i can check to see if the firewire port on camera is working correctly??

Steven Taylor · July 30th, 2007, 12:23 PM

try and find the PC equivalent of something like this, as simple as you get for firewire streams really.

http://www.bigmugsoftware.com/monitor/

John B. Nelson · July 30th, 2007, 02:51 PM

Mickey, I have experienced the same problem you have.. see my post below:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=96839

The only thing that I can recomend for now is to use a capture device as an in between. I am using this:

http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php

My computer recognizes this as a video device and when you plug the A1 to the device, the computer should recognize the A1 as a video device as well.

This is the only solution that I know of as of now. Hope this helps.

-John

Maksim Yankovskiy · July 30th, 2007, 03:15 PM

John,

Isn't the device firewire-SD? It would not know what to do with HDV, would it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by John B. Nelson

Mickey, I have experienced the same problem you have.. see my post below:

http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=96839

The only thing that I can recomend for now is to use a capture device as an in between. I am using this:

http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php

My computer recognizes this as a video device and when you plug the A1 to the device, the computer should recognize the A1 as a video device as well.

This is the only solution that I know of as of now. Hope this helps.

-John

Kevin Amundson · July 30th, 2007, 06:30 PM

Hey Mickey,

I have been using the A1 and PP2 without a problem, I did notice you are using PPCS3. What is your footage recorded in 50i or 25p? I am assuming your using PAL over there. I don't know if you have to download any Project templates with PPCS3, I did for PP2 in order to use the 24p or 25p. You can find them on the Adobe Download site.

There's also a free program by the name of HDVSplit that will capture HDV footage. Do a Google search for it. I have been using this recently as PP2 is a system resource hog.

I would give HDVSplit a try and see if you can capture with that.

John B. Nelson · July 30th, 2007, 06:47 PM

Maksim, I have no problem capturing HDV with my current setup. The ADVC110 transfers the HDV with no problem. It's up to the software to handle the data, not the ADVC110. Right now I'm using HDVSplit for capture and then edit with PSE 3.0.

-John

Mickey Mackwan · August 2nd, 2007, 12:55 AM

Kevin.....i have recorded in 25 aswell as 50 thanks to all of you guys for the help got the problem sorted out by a exchange ;) the new camera works perfect so definately the other one had a firewire issue............thanks again and hope of learning a few tricks from you guys......

July 30th, 2007, 03:37 AM	#1
Mickey Mackwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sydney Australia Posts: 60	capturing problem i am a new proud owner of xha1 have been reading this forum since a few months and have got a lot of useful information regarding xha1. i am no pro in this field this is my first camera and so please forgive if anything is too dumb..... problems i am facing when i connect the camera via firewire cable to my pc and turn the camera to ext cont i dont hear any noise ( normally heard when installed new device) i had windows vista and tried on windows movie maker and adobe premier pro cs3 but with no luck none of them even sees that the camera is connected phoned up the canon and they said that the firewire port might not be working rite, so went out and bought a new external case for a dvd drive with firewire port that worked as soon as i plugged in without a problem. does any settings has to be changed on the camera ?? do you guys think that the firewire port on camera is faulty ?? any help would be greatly appriciatead thanks to all of you

July 30th, 2007, 04:13 AM	#4
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	Mickey, I take it you have the SP2 installed? __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

July 30th, 2007, 04:14 AM	#5
Mickey Mackwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sydney Australia Posts: 60	yes i have sp2 installed...cant i just use movie maker in xp to capture the video?? that too is not working at the present it says no video capturing device is detected, now when adobe pp is running and i go to capture and turn the camera on the computer acknowledges that some device is turned on by that sound...... but still cant see the camera and pp says cant activate recorder try reseting the camera but when i reset no progress same thing..........please help Last edited by Mickey Mackwan; July 30th, 2007 at 07:00 AM.

July 30th, 2007, 06:30 PM	#12
Kevin Amundson Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Prague, MN Posts: 112	Hey Mickey, I have been using the A1 and PP2 without a problem, I did notice you are using PPCS3. What is your footage recorded in 50i or 25p? I am assuming your using PAL over there. I don't know if you have to download any Project templates with PPCS3, I did for PP2 in order to use the 24p or 25p. You can find them on the Adobe Download site. There's also a free program by the name of HDVSplit that will capture HDV footage. Do a Google search for it. I have been using this recently as PP2 is a system resource hog. I would give HDVSplit a try and see if you can capture with that. __________________ Kevin \| www.kraentertainment.com A picture is worth 1,000 words \| A 2 hour film at 24fps is worth 172,800,000 words

July 30th, 2007, 03:58 AM	#2
Sven Ohrvik New Boot Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Drammen, Norway Posts: 23	Sorry if I misunderstand, but are you trying to capture previously recorded material from tape to the computer? (In this case, the A1 shall be in VCR/PLAY mode not EXT). Bw Sven

July 30th, 2007, 04:05 AM	#3
Mickey Mackwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sydney Australia Posts: 60	thanks sven i have tried that too but without any luck....i even have installed xp now and still cant get the camera connected, are there any settings on the camera that has to be changed for connecting it to computer ??

July 30th, 2007, 08:06 AM	#6
Brendan Kelleher New Boot Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 11	Mickey, I'm a new xha1 owner (10 days) and am enjoying a steep learning curve, and then a dip, and then a rise.....etc.etc. But, I think Sven has seen your problem which is simply to have the camera set to "vcr/play" for capture not "ext cont". Trust me, do not go to ext cont. for what you are trying to do. Set the camera to vcr/play, then try to capture your material,....please let us know how you go. Regards, Brendan

July 30th, 2007, 09:17 AM	#7
Steven Taylor Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 44	Another thing to check (which stumped me as a new A1 owner last week!) is the automatic downcovert to SD mode when you are trying to connect to the camera in HD mode. So in VCR/PLAY mode make sure HD DOWN-CONV mode is set to off.. I can't remember which menu it's in but you'll find it. I'm using a Mac, but I found that both iMovie and FCP wouldn't see the camera when they were loaded with HD projects, and it was seeing an SD feed from the firewire. I've not tested this idea thoroughly, but everything started working fine once I changed this setting ;)

July 30th, 2007, 10:43 AM	#8
Mickey Mackwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sydney Australia Posts: 60	thanks brenden yes i have tried the vcr/play mode but it didnt help..am gonna try a few other things thanks steven i know where the setting for HD DOWN-CONV are and will see that they are off......thanks for the help i will keep u guys posted as the problem is solved..... is there any way i can check to see if the firewire port on camera is working correctly??

July 30th, 2007, 12:23 PM	#9
Steven Taylor Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 44	try and find the PC equivalent of something like this, as simple as you get for firewire streams really. http://www.bigmugsoftware.com/monitor/

July 30th, 2007, 02:51 PM	#10
John B. Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bradford, PA Posts: 67	Mickey, I have experienced the same problem you have.. see my post below: http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=96839 The only thing that I can recomend for now is to use a capture device as an in between. I am using this: http://www.canopus.com/products/ADVC110/index.php My computer recognizes this as a video device and when you plug the A1 to the device, the computer should recognize the A1 as a video device as well. This is the only solution that I know of as of now. Hope this helps. -John

July 30th, 2007, 06:47 PM	#13
John B. Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bradford, PA Posts: 67	Maksim, I have no problem capturing HDV with my current setup. The ADVC110 transfers the HDV with no problem. It's up to the software to handle the data, not the ADVC110. Right now I'm using HDVSplit for capture and then edit with PSE 3.0. -John

August 2nd, 2007, 12:55 AM	#14
Mickey Mackwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: sydney Australia Posts: 60	Kevin.....i have recorded in 25 aswell as 50 thanks to all of you guys for the help got the problem sorted out by a exchange ;) the new camera works perfect so definately the other one had a firewire issue............thanks again and hope of learning a few tricks from you guys......