What--yet ANOTHER Heinz commercial?! Mine...

Charles Papert · August 10th, 2007, 07:26 PM

Sam, I've read the posts also and haven't had the opportunity to test both methods, but at the very least it means I can capture in whatever codec I want without having to transcode the files.

John, the winning ads will be shown on TV--and that actually is not my license plate number, we "greeked" the numbers with a little careful application of tape.

Lonnie Bell · August 11th, 2007, 10:04 AM

hello Charles,
was the number of dropouts significant to report using the HV20 as a deck?
or were there any at all?

sincere thanks and kudos on your very well crafted commercial.

Lonnie

Charles Papert · August 11th, 2007, 10:13 AM

Not one dropout in an hour of transferred footage. Everything went smoothly.

Have there been reported issues with this?

It did feel a tad strange, I've owned DV decks for years and don't even remember using a camera as a feeder deck, but I don't really feel like I want to invest in an HDV deck just yet. If I could trade in one of my DV decks, now THAT would be worth it! Somehow I think there might be a depreciation issue...

Lonnie Bell · August 12th, 2007, 03:27 PM

I will have no worries using a future "B-camera" as a deck... until it rolls over into my pastry sitting atop my desk!

Yeah and I figure a "deck" that serves double-duty as a coverage camera in the field - I'll get over any concerns about the feeling of "this seems a little odd..."

Again, top tier commercial - I hope it garners you in the top 15!

Lonnie

Charles Papert · August 12th, 2007, 05:47 PM

I guess it's something about the size of the tape transport--rewinding or fast-forwarding 30 minutes into a tape taking less than a minute on a full-size deck vs many times that on a camcorder always makes me feel like I'm "asking too much" of the camcorder!

I can't complain about the length of service of my DV decks, seeing as how I've had them for 6 and 8 years respectively! And I do wonder how long I will be working with HDV in comparison.

David Warren · August 14th, 2007, 05:55 AM

yes once the image is recorded onto the tape the best you're going to get off the tape is 4:2:0.. only way to get better is to use the component out into a capture card on a laptop or similar.. WHILE you're shooting..
not having to transcode would be nice though.. ;)

August 10th, 2007, 07:26 PM	#16
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Sam, I've read the posts also and haven't had the opportunity to test both methods, but at the very least it means I can capture in whatever codec I want without having to transcode the files. John, the winning ads will be shown on TV--and that actually is not my license plate number, we "greeked" the numbers with a little careful application of tape. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

August 11th, 2007, 10:04 AM	#17
Lonnie Bell Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV United States Posts: 361	hello Charles, was the number of dropouts significant to report using the HV20 as a deck? or were there any at all? sincere thanks and kudos on your very well crafted commercial. Lonnie __________________ Lonnie Bell mamas boy productions Las Vegas, NV

August 11th, 2007, 10:13 AM	#18
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	Not one dropout in an hour of transferred footage. Everything went smoothly. Have there been reported issues with this? It did feel a tad strange, I've owned DV decks for years and don't even remember using a camera as a feeder deck, but I don't really feel like I want to invest in an HDV deck just yet. If I could trade in one of my DV decks, now THAT would be worth it! Somehow I think there might be a depreciation issue... __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

August 12th, 2007, 03:27 PM	#19
Lonnie Bell Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV United States Posts: 361	I will have no worries using a future "B-camera" as a deck... until it rolls over into my pastry sitting atop my desk! Yeah and I figure a "deck" that serves double-duty as a coverage camera in the field - I'll get over any concerns about the feeling of "this seems a little odd..." Again, top tier commercial - I hope it garners you in the top 15! Lonnie __________________ Lonnie Bell mamas boy productions Las Vegas, NV

August 12th, 2007, 05:47 PM	#20
Charles Papert Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 6,810	I guess it's something about the size of the tape transport--rewinding or fast-forwarding 30 minutes into a tape taking less than a minute on a full-size deck vs many times that on a camcorder always makes me feel like I'm "asking too much" of the camcorder! I can't complain about the length of service of my DV decks, seeing as how I've had them for 6 and 8 years respectively! And I do wonder how long I will be working with HDV in comparison. __________________ Charles Papert www.charlespapert.com

August 14th, 2007, 05:55 AM	#21
David Warren Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 61	yes once the image is recorded onto the tape the best you're going to get off the tape is 4:2:0.. only way to get better is to use the component out into a capture card on a laptop or similar.. WHILE you're shooting.. not having to transcode would be nice though.. ;)