Preset for PAL Users at DVinfo.net

Jose Ramada · August 9th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Hi everybody,

First of all I must say that I`m not a video scientist or professional. I just enjoy a lot of video and photography and mainly I rely on what my eyes capture from our world. Previously I had a JVC HD 100 and now I have a Canon A1 and I`m very happy with it.
Based on Tim Dashwood settings for JVC HD 100, on what I have read on Steve Mullen book (JVC HD 100 Handbook), on Panalook preset for Canon A1 and on my eyes, I finally achieved what seems to be a good all purpose preset for PAL users. My settings are:

L Gain -3Db; M Gain 0Db; H Gain 6Db

Gam N
KNE A
BLK S
PED -2
SET -1
SHP -1
HDF M
DHV 0
COR 0
NR1 0
NR2 0
CMX N
CGN 13
CPH -3
RGN -17
GGN -7
BGN 12
RGM 0
RBM 0
GRM 0
GBM 0
BRM 0
BGM 0

I find night shots with vivid colors and good latitude and with 6Db gain there is no noise.
I hope everybody enjoy it and any suggestions are always welcome.

Regards

Paul Joy · August 10th, 2007, 01:48 PM

I hadn't realised that PAL cameras produced a different look to NTSC cameras, would that explain why I can't seem to get my footage to look like others have posted using the VIVIDRGB presets etc?

The colours seem to look a lot more contrasty and a little harsh in comparison to what I'm seeing from across the pond.

Paul.

Bill Watson · August 10th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Yes, I'm interested to know why a PAL A1 would be different (preset wise) from an NTSC one.

Neal Reville · August 10th, 2007, 09:47 PM

It seems highly unlikely that PAL cameras are any different to NTSC ones but, having said that, I must admit that in its default condition, my A1 produces very (colour) unsaturated pictures -- so much so that I still wonder if it's normal??

Jose Ramada · August 12th, 2007, 03:24 PM

Before launching this preset I tried the VIVID and Panalook presets and I felt VIVID very saturated and contrasty. Panalook was almost good but it lacks some latitude. I have no doubt that for PAL cameras things are somewhat different. I hope all of you enjoy this preset.

Christopher Kuhn · August 19th, 2007, 04:54 AM

hi Jose
I was using your preset yesterday and I do like the results. I'm just guessing but maybe there's a difference in the natural light conditions in Europe - aren't there a lot of painters travel to Spain, Italy and France always on the search for the best light?

Jose Ramada · August 19th, 2007, 06:52 PM

Hi Christopher

In fact light conditions in countries like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece are very good, specially in autumn and spring (amazing soft light) and this make colors very vivid and bright. I already used my preset at Brussels and the results were very good. I advise to set color temperature at 6100 - 6600K when sun shines very much the skies are deeply blue and the surroundings have many grey buildings. Otherwise set your color temperature at 5600K on normal daylight conditions. Glad to know you enjoyed this preset!

August 9th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#1
Jose Ramada New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valadares - Portugal Posts: 24	Preset for PAL Users Hi everybody, First of all I must say that I`m not a video scientist or professional. I just enjoy a lot of video and photography and mainly I rely on what my eyes capture from our world. Previously I had a JVC HD 100 and now I have a Canon A1 and I`m very happy with it. Based on Tim Dashwood settings for JVC HD 100, on what I have read on Steve Mullen book (JVC HD 100 Handbook), on Panalook preset for Canon A1 and on my eyes, I finally achieved what seems to be a good all purpose preset for PAL users. My settings are: L Gain -3Db; M Gain 0Db; H Gain 6Db Gam N KNE A BLK S PED -2 SET -1 SHP -1 HDF M DHV 0 COR 0 NR1 0 NR2 0 CMX N CGN 13 CPH -3 RGN -17 GGN -7 BGN 12 RGM 0 RBM 0 GRM 0 GBM 0 BRM 0 BGM 0 I find night shots with vivid colors and good latitude and with 6Db gain there is no noise. I hope everybody enjoy it and any suggestions are always welcome. Regards

August 10th, 2007, 01:48 PM	#2
Paul Joy Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 627	I hadn't realised that PAL cameras produced a different look to NTSC cameras, would that explain why I can't seem to get my footage to look like others have posted using the VIVIDRGB presets etc? The colours seem to look a lot more contrasty and a little harsh in comparison to what I'm seeing from across the pond. Paul. __________________ Blog: www.pauljoy.com Company: www.videotrader.co.uk

August 10th, 2007, 09:47 PM	#4
Neal Reville New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 12	Are PAL A1's different?? It seems highly unlikely that PAL cameras are any different to NTSC ones but, having said that, I must admit that in its default condition, my A1 produces very (colour) unsaturated pictures -- so much so that I still wonder if it's normal??

August 10th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#3
Bill Watson Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Noosa Queensland Australia Posts: 248	Yes, I'm interested to know why a PAL A1 would be different (preset wise) from an NTSC one.

August 12th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#5
Jose Ramada New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valadares - Portugal Posts: 24	Before launching this preset I tried the VIVID and Panalook presets and I felt VIVID very saturated and contrasty. Panalook was almost good but it lacks some latitude. I have no doubt that for PAL cameras things are somewhat different. I hope all of you enjoy this preset.

August 19th, 2007, 04:54 AM	#6
Christopher Kuhn New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CH-Switzerland Posts: 19	hi Jose I was using your preset yesterday and I do like the results. I'm just guessing but maybe there's a difference in the natural light conditions in Europe - aren't there a lot of painters travel to Spain, Italy and France always on the search for the best light?

August 19th, 2007, 06:52 PM	#7
Jose Ramada New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valadares - Portugal Posts: 24	Hi Christopher In fact light conditions in countries like Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece are very good, specially in autumn and spring (amazing soft light) and this make colors very vivid and bright. I already used my preset at Brussels and the results were very good. I advise to set color temperature at 6100 - 6600K when sun shines very much the skies are deeply blue and the surroundings have many grey buildings. Otherwise set your color temperature at 5600K on normal daylight conditions. Glad to know you enjoyed this preset!