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Old October 6th, 2007, 11:14 AM   #16
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Steve do you see the bar to the right of the rendering screen go red? I think it has to stay green or you run into problems with blurred sections that it can't smooth out. I had the same problem and realized the clip just had too much motion.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 01:16 PM   #17
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Steve do you see the bar to the right of the rendering screen go red? I think it has to stay green or you run into problems with blurred sections that it can't smooth out. I had the same problem and realized the clip just had too much motion.
Paul,

The little green bar on the lower right of the screen never turns red and it doesn't go above 1/4 the way up maximum, so I dont really think its because too much movement. Im just trying to smooth out a little shake while using my monopod because I accidently had the in-camera stabilization turned off.

Thats why I was curious, there is noticable blurryness and abberations even though I am not having the program resize the image. Are you keeping the same quailty resolution when using HDV footage?

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Old October 6th, 2007, 01:57 PM   #18
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What settings are you using?

I am away from my editing machine so I don't know the exact settings. The settings I remember are the NTSC top field first, on the pull down options up top I use the third down that says (intense rendering), then in the bottom right I choose upscale to remove border. I can check all the settings in detail tomorrow.

I have not delivered HDV with Marcalli used on the clips. I have delivered HDV down converted to DVD and the results were excellent. This coming week I am looking into how much is lost in HD.
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Old October 6th, 2007, 02:30 PM   #19
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What settings are you using?

I am away from my editing machine so I don't know the exact settings. The settings I remember are the NTSC top field first, on the pull down options up top I use the third down that says (intense rendering), then in the bottom right I choose upscale to remove border. I can check all the settings in detail tomorrow.

I have not delivered HDV with Marcalli used on the clips. I have delivered HDV down converted to DVD and the results were excellent. This coming week I am looking into how much is lost in HD.

Paul,

I have used both the HDV upper field first and the Premiere CS3 setting, I also use the 3rd down (intensive). I also have used all of the different border settings to the same effect. (sporatic blurryness ect.) I am monitoring the output via a 23" LCD samsung so the effect is quite pernounced. If you are not noticing any loss of resolution or some weird motion blur effect, I wonder what the problem could be.

Are you applying the effect to HDV then rendering and downconverting to DV or are you applying the Mercalli to the DV that was downconverted? Yes if you find out any info on resolution loss on HDV in your tests let me know.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 11:39 AM   #20
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Steve,

Still out of the office on a shoot and it looks like I will not be at the editing machine till tomorrow afternoon.

I do edit HDV then add the effect prior to rendering out to DVD.

Will look into it more and let you know what I find.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 11:46 AM   #21
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Steve,

Still out of the office on a shoot and it looks like I will not be at the editing machine till tomorrow afternoon.

I do edit HDV then add the effect prior to rendering out to DVD.

Will look into it more and let you know what I find.

Thanks Paul.
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Old October 7th, 2007, 12:36 PM   #22
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Prodad's new Mercalli is great.

Here is a 1280/720 wmv before and after underwater shot straight out of an EDIUS HDV timeline.

BEFORE
http://www.hdvunderwater.com/prodad/shaky2a.wmv

AFTER
http://www.hdvunderwater.com/prodad/shaky2.wmv

So easy and very quick to use.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 09:44 AM   #23
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Steve,

Here are my settings.
Profiles: Precise Image stabilization (intensive rendering)
Video-Format: Top Field First (NTSC)
Compare View: Final Result
Motion Detection: max at more valid
Important picture area: Neutral
Special Video Analysis: Detect Fast Motions
Particular Distinguishing Characteristics: Also detect object contours
Camera Stabilization: Smooth
Camera balance: In balance
Camera Motion: Also tilt compensation
Border area: Without Border (upscale) Min

After looking at Paul's clip and looking at many on my timeline with Mercalli it does soften the clips in HDV. If there is too much motion I can see blurred sections. But for $119 it seems well worth the money. Nothing beats stable footage off the camera.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 12:03 PM   #24
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I noticed the same thing in some clips of my timeline. I guess that is just matter of find a happy mid of stabilization vs picture quality. For the price I don't mind since there is not too many filter options out there.
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Old October 8th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #25
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I noticed the same thing in some clips of my timeline. I guess that is just matter of find a happy mid of stabilization vs picture quality. For the price I don't mind since there is not too many filter options out there.
I was just wondering If I was crazy or not, everyone else had great things to say about it, I wondered if I had a problem. I still bought it, because your right its the only thing out really... and its not terrible. The only thing I dont like is that there is no 1-800 for tech support you have to wait for an overseas email for correspondance.

Thanks for your tests and input fellas!


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Old October 13th, 2007, 02:22 PM   #26
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Prodad's new Mercalli is great.

Here is a 1280/720 wmv before and after underwater shot straight out of an EDIUS HDV timeline.
Based on how it handles your footage, it looks like it does an amazing job and really not overly pricey either. Thanks
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