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Old October 9th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #1
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XH-A1 and Firestore

I apologize for starting ANOTHER thread on this very talked about issue -- I have done the searches, feel fairly confident in what direction I will take, but I wanted to verify that I am understanding correctly the issue of Canon's 24F .m2t in relation to the FireStore products.

I am not interested in working with QT files, I work with Vegas, which works with .m2t files natively. It appears that I can save a bit of money and record .m2t streams to this FS-4 as well as this FS-C. The FS-4 is quite a bit cheaper, and I am interested in saving money of course. BUT, I want to be certain that the FS-4 will handle the 24F .m2t format without problems, WITH THE XH-A1.

I have attempted to talk with Focus Enhancements, with Sales Reps at Bhphotovideo, and have gotten conflicting reports as to whether the FS-4 can handle the 24F .m2t mode.

Are there any XH-A1 users with an FS-4 HD that regularly shoot 24F .m2t with no trouble? Or do I need to fork over the additional cash for the FS-C unit?

Thanks for your time.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:23 PM   #2
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fs 4 pro will handle 24F into an mt2 stream, just not into a quicktime file. For everything else it works fine, as in a 1080 60i into either mt2 or quicktime. The fsc will likely have the most updates for canon cameras in the future.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:35 PM   #3
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Thanks, Stephen. Does the FS-4 HD listed on the link I posted fall into the "pro" category?
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Old October 10th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #4
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Brandon,

The FS-4 HD is *not* the FS-4 HD Pro. However, Stephen is right. the FS-4 HD will accept the 24F stream and put it in an .m2t file. I just tried it with mine.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 02:13 PM   #5
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Thanks Glen. When you copy over the .m2t, does your NLE of choice (I'm using Vegas) recognize it correctly as a 23.976 file? Sorry for the constant questions, but I want to be certain before I spend $800.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 04:59 PM   #6
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Liquid 7.2 recognizes and imports the file as 23.98 fps.

I have uploaded ~10 seconds of NTSC bars and 1Khz tone (courtesy of the A1) to
http://www.diamondrosevideo.com/vide...-173407D01.m2t
(Right click, Save target as...) (34MB). How does Vegas handle it?
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Old October 10th, 2007, 07:00 PM   #7
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Got it. Looks great!

One more question (I hope) and then I'm good to go.

A lot of what I do is film interviews that can last between 10 and 45 minutes. I've read that the FireStores break HDV clips into 9 minute segments while recording. Now, I know that it's not supposed to drop frames inbetween those splits, but I've heard of audio glitches between the splits. Has this been a valid issue, and if so, is it still?
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Old October 10th, 2007, 07:30 PM   #8
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I read one report that the drives are a little noisy for shooting in tight quarters, but I haven't seen that confirmed by any posts other that that one.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 07:32 PM   #9
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Yes, it does break up the files since it used a FAT file system. I have only done one project that required clips that long. I did not have any audio issues when it broke up the files. Either I got lucky or the latest software fixed any early issues.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:09 PM   #10
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Thank you everyone! I know what course of action I am taking, now.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 11:59 PM   #11
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I own a FSC and have recorded many interviews with clips lasting longer than 9min and have yet to find an audio problem when importing into Vegas or FCP for that matter.

On a similar note, I would suggest (if you can) to hit the rec button in between questions to create a new clip which will cut down on your clip length and make editing a little easier as you'll have individual clips to look at rather than scrubbing through an entire interview.
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