HG10 or HV20 to match XH-A1? at DVinfo.net

Larry Huntington · November 12th, 2007, 02:15 AM

I am thinking of getting the Canon HD10 (hard drive based) camcorder to match my two A1's for a stationary b-roll cam. Anyone out there know how well it matches to the A1? I've used the HV20 and it matches well, but frankly, I want a camera that can record continuously to cover tape changes for multi-camera live shoots.

Anyone using the HG10 in 24p mode? I read some reviews of the avchd codec having issues with the 24p mode.

Don Palomaki · November 12th, 2007, 12:39 PM

FWIW: Videomaker just published a review of the Canon HG-10. You can read it at their web site.

As you noted, NLE support for AVCHD format is expanding, but not as widespread as HDV yet.

Dirk Bouwen · November 12th, 2007, 01:28 PM

Pro's for the HV20

HV20 can be used as deck for the (far more expensive) A1's footage, AND supports the A1's F-based footage as capture engine.

HDV is better supported than AVCHD, that whatever they may say, still has to become a mainstream standard. For the same money, this is one of the many 'never made it' standards that's thrown on the junkyard over some months because it did not make enough money. HDV is around for some time now.

HDD devices are usualy more power hungry than tape devices

HV20 is bulkier, but by that, its shape fits good in manipulation by hand. The smaller, the more difficult to get a good, stable balance

Ger Griffin · November 12th, 2007, 07:08 PM

if you leave a couple of minutes between pressing record on the HV20 at the start of the job that should provide you with enought time to change tapes on the A1 before the HV20's tape runs out. This is the way I try to do it and when I can do it this way its a pleasure.

Bill Pryor · November 13th, 2007, 12:48 PM

I would stay with the HDV codec too. What I've done in the past on long shoots is to start the second camera about 5 minutes after the first one. That way it'll be running for sure when you change tapes in camera one. Then you can lock down camera one and change out camera two.

Larry Huntington · November 19th, 2007, 12:09 AM

Thanks for the input everyone. I agree- HDV with the HV20 plus off-setting the tapes 5 minutes apart is the best answer combined with the A1. Eventually HDD is where I want to go, but not yet.

November 12th, 2007, 02:15 AM	#1
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	HG10 or HV20 to match XH-A1? I am thinking of getting the Canon HD10 (hard drive based) camcorder to match my two A1's for a stationary b-roll cam. Anyone out there know how well it matches to the A1? I've used the HV20 and it matches well, but frankly, I want a camera that can record continuously to cover tape changes for multi-camera live shoots. Anyone using the HG10 in 24p mode? I read some reviews of the avchd codec having issues with the 24p mode. Last edited by Larry Huntington; November 12th, 2007 at 02:27 AM. Reason: Any AVCHD Complaints in 24p?

November 12th, 2007, 12:39 PM	#2
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,487	FWIW: Videomaker just published a review of the Canon HG-10. You can read it at their web site. As you noted, NLE support for AVCHD format is expanding, but not as widespread as HDV yet. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

November 12th, 2007, 01:28 PM	#3
Dirk Bouwen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AC, Belgium Posts: 75	A1 companion Pro's for the HV20 HV20 can be used as deck for the (far more expensive) A1's footage, AND supports the A1's F-based footage as capture engine. HDV is better supported than AVCHD, that whatever they may say, still has to become a mainstream standard. For the same money, this is one of the many 'never made it' standards that's thrown on the junkyard over some months because it did not make enough money. HDV is around for some time now. HDD devices are usualy more power hungry than tape devices HV20 is bulkier, but by that, its shape fits good in manipulation by hand. The smaller, the more difficult to get a good, stable balance

November 12th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#4
Ger Griffin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 579	if you leave a couple of minutes between pressing record on the HV20 at the start of the job that should provide you with enought time to change tapes on the A1 before the HV20's tape runs out. This is the way I try to do it and when I can do it this way its a pleasure.

November 13th, 2007, 12:48 PM	#5
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I would stay with the HDV codec too. What I've done in the past on long shoots is to start the second camera about 5 minutes after the first one. That way it'll be running for sure when you change tapes in camera one. Then you can lock down camera one and change out camera two.

November 19th, 2007, 12:09 AM	#6
Larry Huntington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grass Valley, California Posts: 350	Thanks for the input everyone. I agree- HDV with the HV20 plus off-setting the tapes 5 minutes apart is the best answer combined with the A1. Eventually HDD is where I want to go, but not yet.