Which Would Be Better?

[Seun Osewa]

- Film processing involves conversion to a digital intermediate whose resolution is the same as the resolution of high end digital cameras today, which means better film will not lead to a better result in the end.

- Better film isn't going to happen without major changes e.g. moving to 70mm film format, replacing current film cameras with new ones, etc. Unfortunately for film, if we're going to change the equipment, we might as well go digital!

[Steve Yager]

Originally Posted by Seun Osewa

- Film processing involves conversion to a digital intermediate whose resolution is the same as the resolution of high end digital cameras today, which means better film will not lead to a better result in the end.

- Better film isn't going to happen without major changes e.g. moving to 70mm film format, replacing current film cameras with new ones, etc. Unfortunately for film, if we're going to change the equipment, we might as well go digital!

First of all, this thread is out of hand, but that's what boards are for right?

Seun, you're essentially saying that shooting on the best high end digital camera has the same look as shooting on film and going DI. That's some serious crazy talk. To anyone with a critical eye, the difference is night and day.

Try telling Kodak their film isn't getting better. The fact is, it is. They're pouring more money into making better quality celluloid today more than ever.

Find this quote by Nestor Rodriguez (senior principal scientist for Kodak)
"A single frame of color film scanned at 4K by 3K resolution with 10-bit depth contains about 50 megabytes of data. However, there is actually a lot more information than that on each frame of 35mm film. We have conducted tests where we have scanned film at 6K by 4K resolution at 10-bit depth, resulting in about 100 megabytes of data, or twice as much image information. In comparison, a typical CCD or CMOS RGB 3- sensor 1920 by 1080 electronic camera with 10-bit depth records 8 megabytes per frame, assuming that there is no sub-sampling or data compression. A single CFA sensor 4096 by 2048 camera records about 10 megabytes of data. So the simple answer is that today's best film technology enables you to record 5 to 10 times more picture information on a single frame than the best contemporary digital cameras."

We need more affordable DI.

[Ryan Avery]

Originally Posted by Loren Simons

I am about to get money for the holidays (thats my only income being I'm 15)
and i would like to know your guys opinion on what would be a better buy.
I can get a geardear mattebox kit, with french flags, sidewings, and a rod system for $628, or i can get a
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with a
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...icrophone.html
I'm planning on shooting a movie soon, script and all and I already have some mics (drum mics though) that i figured i might just be able to set up around the room and into my mackie than camera.
What do you guys think?

Also, does anyone know if the rods are needed for an A1 from geardear?

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Ryan Avery
Schneider Optics