Editing SD 24F and 24P Together at DVinfo.net

Alex Merrill · February 26th, 2008, 01:25 AM

Hi everyone,

I am having a dillemma. I am faced with the decision of upgrading to either the Canon XL2 or the Canon XH-A1 (Unfortunately, I won't be using HDV anytime soon, my current computer can't really handle it, but I want to be future concious.)

It all falls down to one thing I guess. I am going to do a shoot in March for a piano concerto. The other cameraman is using his Panasonic AG-DVX1000 in 24p.

I don't want to have any problems in post, so what I'm asking is if the A1's SD 24F and the DVX's 24p can be edited together without any technical issues? I believe it's being edited in Final Cut Pro, I dunno what version.

I REALLY want to make sure there won't be any huge issues before going and getting an XH-A1 and finding out there's weird incompatibilities in post, that would completely suck.

Thanks,
Alex

Jeremiah Rickert · February 26th, 2008, 05:17 AM

I just did a similar shoot for a concert using an XHA1 and an XL2 shooting in 24F and 24P respectively. I edited in Vegas, not FCP, but I didn't have any problems getting the footage to match up or anything. Didn't suffer any glitches applying transitions or anything between the two sources.

Also, for good measure, I had someone shooting frame-mode on my old GL1 and even had that footage on the timeline as well. Project settings were set to HDV 1080i 24p.

Not sure if that helps you or not :) Basically the 24F and the 24P are the same thing once they're on the computer (per another thread on here).

JR

Bill Pryor · February 26th, 2008, 10:47 AM

I've done the same thing, with the XH A1 and an XL2 and some DVX100a footage, all shot at 24fps, all edited in FCP. Canon's 24F mode in the XL H1/XH G1/A1 IS 24p in the final result. It's the same thing, just arrived at differently. You won't have any problem.

Alex Merrill · February 26th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Awesome! Thank you very much, guys!

Ryan Postel · February 27th, 2008, 09:51 AM

I've found lots of things touchy with editing 24F and 24p footage. But from my experience, it hasn't been between the Canon XH-A1 and the Panasonic DVX100B.

The main issue was when I also incorporated footage from a Sony V1U that everything seemed to have problems in FCP 6.0. But after talking to someone at Apple, the problems can arise with almost any combination of cameras.

Are you merely editing footage together or are you doing any multi-cam projects? Because the new FCP studio seems to have gone a step backwards in this area and is still a step (I'm really afraid to admit) behind Premiere CS3 in this regard.

I would say that if you have a SD camera in the shoot then make the decision early on whether you are using your HD cameras to merely capture SD vs. HD. I would recommend shooting all the footage the same to try to get everything to the same level first.

February 26th, 2008, 01:25 AM	#1
Alex Merrill New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goodyear, AZ, USA Posts: 14	Editing SD 24F and 24P Together Hi everyone, I am having a dillemma. I am faced with the decision of upgrading to either the Canon XL2 or the Canon XH-A1 (Unfortunately, I won't be using HDV anytime soon, my current computer can't really handle it, but I want to be future concious.) It all falls down to one thing I guess. I am going to do a shoot in March for a piano concerto. The other cameraman is using his Panasonic AG-DVX1000 in 24p. I don't want to have any problems in post, so what I'm asking is if the A1's SD 24F and the DVX's 24p can be edited together without any technical issues? I believe it's being edited in Final Cut Pro, I dunno what version. I REALLY want to make sure there won't be any huge issues before going and getting an XH-A1 and finding out there's weird incompatibilities in post, that would completely suck. Thanks, Alex

February 26th, 2008, 05:17 AM	#2
Jeremiah Rickert Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Newberg, Oregon Posts: 494	I just did a similar shoot for a concert using an XHA1 and an XL2 shooting in 24F and 24P respectively. I edited in Vegas, not FCP, but I didn't have any problems getting the footage to match up or anything. Didn't suffer any glitches applying transitions or anything between the two sources. Also, for good measure, I had someone shooting frame-mode on my old GL1 and even had that footage on the timeline as well. Project settings were set to HDV 1080i 24p. Not sure if that helps you or not :) Basically the 24F and the 24P are the same thing once they're on the computer (per another thread on here). JR

February 26th, 2008, 10:47 AM	#3
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I've done the same thing, with the XH A1 and an XL2 and some DVX100a footage, all shot at 24fps, all edited in FCP. Canon's 24F mode in the XL H1/XH G1/A1 IS 24p in the final result. It's the same thing, just arrived at differently. You won't have any problem.

February 26th, 2008, 11:36 AM	#4
Alex Merrill New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Goodyear, AZ, USA Posts: 14	Awesome! Thank you very much, guys!

February 27th, 2008, 09:51 AM	#5
Ryan Postel Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 93	I've found lots of things touchy with editing 24F and 24p footage. But from my experience, it hasn't been between the Canon XH-A1 and the Panasonic DVX100B. The main issue was when I also incorporated footage from a Sony V1U that everything seemed to have problems in FCP 6.0. But after talking to someone at Apple, the problems can arise with almost any combination of cameras. Are you merely editing footage together or are you doing any multi-cam projects? Because the new FCP studio seems to have gone a step backwards in this area and is still a step (I'm really afraid to admit) behind Premiere CS3 in this regard. I would say that if you have a SD camera in the shoot then make the decision early on whether you are using your HD cameras to merely capture SD vs. HD. I would recommend shooting all the footage the same to try to get everything to the same level first.