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John Griffin May 18th, 2008 10:39 AM

Audio Dials
 
OK did a search for this and nothing found. I just opened all my external mics today and was playing with the audio level and noticed that the dials were responding opposite of how they are marked. So went through custom settings and theres nothing for reverse of audio dials. I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up.

John

Bill Pryor May 18th, 2008 11:41 AM

Yes, the audio dials are counterintuitive. Down is up. Up is down. George Orwell would have liked the audio dials on the XH A1.

Colin McDonald May 18th, 2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John Griffin (Post 879480)
OK did a search for this and nothing found. I just opened all my external mics today and was playing with the audio level and noticed that the dials were responding opposite of how they are marked. So went through custom settings and theres nothing for reverse of audio dials. I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up.

John

Daft, isn't it? I've just about got used to it now.

I started a thread on this previously:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=112673

Bill Busby May 18th, 2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by John Griffin (Post 879480)
I take it i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower.

Now wait a sec! Am I reading you right? Are you certain? If so, that's how I think we would ALL expect them to work... clockwise=louder, counterclockwise=lower. Forget the markings, forget the dials are mounted vertically & not horizontally... in fact, even if there weren't any of those silly markings, I would have expected them to work as I mentioned above when I first got my hands on the A1. And to this day at times I still will accidentally do this until I realize I'm not in CanonBackwardThinking mode... then go DOH! I forgot! Geesh!

Please clarify.

Deke Ryland May 18th, 2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by John Griffin (Post 879480)
i'm reading the label right as the white gets narrower the sound should get lower, but these are doing the opposite as the white gets wider the sound gets lower. Thanks for any help clearing this up.

WHAT!?!?! I have an A1 and if I adjust the audio and move the marker towards the larger white circles, the gain is INCREASED... just as you would expect. I don't know why your's is reversed???

Bill Busby May 18th, 2008 06:45 PM

Exactly! That's why I'm waiting for clarification, because if his works this way... I want MINE to work that way (the right way:)... & I wonder, if in fact, his IS working that way, what the firmware version is. Maybe (well hopefully) we're on to something. It's always been one of my top 5 gripes about the A1.

John Griffin May 18th, 2008 07:24 PM

Audio Dials
 
I understand the comment on the clockwise=louder, counter-clockwise=lower. But mine is the exact opposite, clockwise=lower, counter-clockwise=louder. If this a firmware issue, is it downloadable?

John

Bill Busby May 18th, 2008 07:36 PM

Yikes! John, this contradicts your original post. You said as the indicator nears the larger dots, it gets lower & vice versa.

So... NOW my question is... look at these dots from the side of your camera & please tell me... aren't the larger dots on the bottom & the smaller ones on the top?

John Griffin May 18th, 2008 07:40 PM

Audio Dials
 
Yes the small dots are to the top and bigger dots to the bottom.

John

Bill Busby May 18th, 2008 07:47 PM

Then your original post must be just a wrong play on words or something. You must have been thinking of how the direction of your thumb, for instance is, is moving instead of where the white arrow indicator is pointing.


Your camera is operating the way it was designed, no matter how "wrong" it is :)

Damn, I got all excited about the possibility of a firmware bit for nuttin :-\

John Griffin May 18th, 2008 07:55 PM

Dials
 
Sorry!!!! Should have said where the white triangles on rear of the camera get wider or narrower.

Luc De Wandel May 22nd, 2008 03:16 PM

But... it stays counter-intuïtive. For men, that is. This camera is a ladies toy: the potmeters on my wifes gas cooker (and on all gas cookers in Europe, I don't know about the States) turn counterclockwise for more heat. Guess we'll have to adress our other brain half for the sound dials.

Bill Pryor May 23rd, 2008 09:55 AM

Our gas stove in the U.S. turns counterclockwise for LESS heat, but the electric one we replaced was the opposite.

Bill Watson May 23rd, 2008 03:31 PM

I've never seen the audio dial thing as an issue as I look at the LED readout.

Looking at it now, though, I still can't see what the problem is. The dial markings are as they should be.

Anyway, works for me.

Luc De Wandel May 24th, 2008 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Pryor (Post 882157)
Our gas stove in the U.S. turns counterclockwise for LESS heat, but the electric one we replaced was the opposite.

Hurray for simplification and standardisation!


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