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Old May 27th, 2008, 08:32 AM   #1
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Colour matching HV30 and XH-A1

Hi, I just matched my HV30 (using a colour chart and skin tones) to the XH-A1 and these are the settings that look most comparable to me (with all the 'image effects' on the HV30 off) :
GAM-N
KNE-M
BLK-P
PED -9
SET -9
SHP 2
HDF-M
HDV 0
COR 0
NR1 0
NR2 0
CMX N
CGN 0
CPH 0
RGN -21
GGN 1
BGN 7
RGM 13
RBM 12
GRM 4
GBM 4
BRM 11
BGM 8
For what it's worth.
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Old May 27th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #2
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Hi, I just matched my HV30 (using a colour chart and skin tones) to the XH-A1 and these are the settings that look most comparable to me (with all the 'image effects' on the HV30 off) :
GAM-N
KNE-M
BLK-P
PED -9
SET -9
SHP 2
HDF-M
HDV 0
COR 0
NR1 0
NR2 0
CMX N
CGN 0
CPH 0
RGN -21
GGN 1
BGN 7
RGM 13
RBM 12
GRM 4
GBM 4
BRM 11
BGM 8
For what it's worth.
Luc
Thanks for sharing that. I don't imagine that you're able to post images yet?

I would be keen to see examples.
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Old May 27th, 2008, 03:55 PM   #3
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Thanks for sharing that. I don't imagine that you're able to post images yet?

I would be keen to see examples.
No, not able to post images yet. Sorry. Good luck with the settings though.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #4
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Is it easy to make it a Custom Preset file we can load to the SD card? That would be wonderful!
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Old May 29th, 2008, 02:55 AM   #5
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Is it easy to make it a Custom Preset file we can load to the SD card? That would be wonderful!
I'll give it a try as soon as I can post attachements, Taky.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 03:05 AM   #6
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That would be wonderful! Just curious, so you are matching HV30 not in Cine mode, right? So all middle setting in Contrast, Brightness, and Color Depth?

That's awesome!
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Old May 29th, 2008, 03:08 AM   #7
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That would be wonderful! Just curious, so you are matching HV30 not in Cine mode, right? So all middle setting in Contrast, Brightness, and Color Depth?

That's awesome!
Thats' correct. My HV30 in it's factory settings is already much more contrasted and coulourful than the XH-A1. In fact, it gives a fantastic image right out of the box. I prefer high-contrast images. It remains a matter of taste, of course.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 11:06 AM   #8
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Just to make sure I read your post correctly... which of the two camera's did you adjust? Did you adjust the HV30 to look like the A1? Or did you adjust your A1 to look like the out-of-the-box HV30? Thanks!
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Old May 29th, 2008, 11:07 AM   #9
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HV30 doesn't have all those paremeters to adjust.
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That's right, the adjustment possibilities of the HV30 are rather limited compared to those of the XH-A1. So the comparison is done with all the settings of the HV30 in 'neutral' and all the tweaking is done on the XH-A1. I have the preset file here, but I have to wait until I get 'attachement' prerogatives to post it. I don't know exactly when that is. My first post was 28 days ago, if I'm not mistaken.
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Hey Luc... when you say HV30 'neutral', do you mean it's factory default? Or is there an actual 'neutral' setting that is different than the saturated and contrasty factory look of the HV30?
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Old May 30th, 2008, 02:26 AM   #12
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Hey Luc... when you say HV30 'neutral', do you mean it's factory default? Or is there an actual 'neutral' setting that is different than the saturated and contrasty factory look of the HV30?

I meant the hard, colourful factory setting. I happen to like this setting (because I'm used to concert photography, I suppose), but I can imagine that for many people this is too harsh. Then my preset on the XH-A1 won't please them, of course...
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I've tried this preset in my XH-A1 and it has a very blue colour cast to it .. not at all like my HV20 which I'd expect to be similar to a HV30.
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Old February 5th, 2009, 10:06 AM   #14
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I've tried this preset in my XH-A1 and it has a very blue colour cast to it .. not at all like my HV20 which I'd expect to be similar to a HV30.
I'm sure Luc won't mind if you make your own adjustments ; ). BTW double check your white balance.

I'm going to try this out even though I don't have and HV30 haha, I just think it's interesting to see how unique of an image can be produced on the A1, one day actually figuring these variables out and creating my own preset.

Thanks for sharing

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Old February 5th, 2009, 11:00 AM   #15
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No the white balance is fine, if I flick through my presets (I have 8 customised presets installed, one of which I use most of the time with punchy colours & my low light one I use when needed) colour is good till I reach this (HV30) one and it goes very blue. I wonder if Luc had his white balance preset to something non neutral when he created it. Try it and see what you think!

Looking at the values ..

RGN = -21
GGN = 1
BGN = 7

Red turned right down, blue turned up.
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