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Old July 10th, 2008, 06:00 AM   #1
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Critical : Grip Belt Broken !!!!

XH-A1 has a manufacture defect :

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Old July 10th, 2008, 07:42 AM   #2
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XH-A1 has a manufacture defect :

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Thanks for the heads up and sorry to hear about this happening to your camera. I just checked mine to make sure it looks OK.

I think it would be more accurate to say YOUR XH-A1 has (may have?) a manufacturing defect. Just like my Rode SM3 shockmount which is being replaced under warranty.

Maybe I seem just a bit pedantic, but until I'm aware of evidence of hundreds of people with failed grip belt mountings, I don't think it's appropriate to imply that this is a major issue with Canon XH-A1s in general.

I like to use the shoulder strap for security when it's not on sticks - and yes I know what many pro users think about that.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 07:45 AM   #3
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If it really is a manufacturing defect and the camera is less than a year old, then it should be submitted to Canon factory service as a warranty repair issue.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 07:50 AM   #4
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Is your camera still under waranty? If so, Canon may resolve this for you. If not, try a little J-B Weld (the normal stuff, not the Kwik weld). It's an amazing epoxy that will probably be stronger than the plastic itself.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 10:12 AM   #5
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How did it break? What were you doing at the time? Not implying you were doing anything silly - just wondering what the circustances were so we know what sort of a margin for error we have. Cheers.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 04:14 PM   #6
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Hi Antonio............

If this really was a generic fault with the XHA1, then I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be the first time an instance got reported here on DVinfo.

I'm not aware of any other report of such a failure.

That said, a close inspection of my A1 does bear out that which shows so clearly in your photo, that plastic piece really doesn't look man enough for the job asked of it.

I'd be interested to hear the camera's history and circumstances of the failure.


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Old July 11th, 2008, 05:24 AM   #7
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How did it break? What were you doing at the time? Not implying you were doing anything silly - just wondering what the circustances were so we know what sort of a margin for error we have. Cheers.
Thanks to everyone.

I was just shooting a wedding ceremony with my right hand, that's it.

Nothing on top of the camera, I mean Lights or additional Microphones....just the camera.

Bride was entering the Church and suddendly the grip belt broke.

Canon cannot replace the camera, 'cause it is not a warranty repair issue.

I'm so sad.....
It's so frustrating!
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Old July 11th, 2008, 07:42 AM   #8
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Well even if it were under warranty, they wouldn't replace the entire camera, so that should not have been expected. What they would do is simply replace the right half of the body shell. Even though it's not a warranty repair, you can still have this service performed; it's just a standard charge for opening up the camera body and the cost of the right side body shell. In other words, you don't have to live with this problem -- Canon service will perform the work for a reasonable fee, or you can try a self-repair using the previously mentioned J.B. Weld (or similar product).
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Old July 11th, 2008, 09:55 AM   #9
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Mine seems solid.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 07:10 PM   #10
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Quite possibly it had a knock at some time and you may not have noticed at the time.

Doesn't look like it would be too hard to repair though, either with epoxy resin or a plastic weld.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #11
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I don't know that I'd rate that as a "manufacturing defect", more like a design flaw... using unreinforced plastic on a high stress point like that is not a bright idea - everything I've got (Sony) has METAL reinforcements at the strap ends...

That said, the plastic probably is spec'd pretty high, which is of course fine until it fails... and then it's a problem.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 12:20 PM   #12
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I am sure that another member had a problem with the grip belt on an XHA1 but can't remember the exact circumstances.

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Old August 19th, 2009, 04:36 PM   #13
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Grip belt broken too...figures it is a defect

This just happened to me this past weekend! All I did was put my hand through and get ready to film, when all of a sudden it snapped right off!! It is definitely a defect, or a cheap way to make the camera. My 2nd assistant showed me the metal piece on his Sony, apparently it is much more robust than the Canon grip belt.

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Old August 19th, 2009, 04:51 PM   #14
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By the way, I have only had the camera for less than a year and a half, and I am still paying for it. Interesting that things always seem to break just after the warranty expires....

Has anyone tried fixing it themselves or is it better to take it to a shop

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Old August 19th, 2009, 06:19 PM   #15
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My guess is that you accidently bumped it quite recently and this time when you put your hand in the stirrup, it had enough force to break it free. You said you have had the camera for 1 1/2 years....if it was flawed, it would have gave way a while ago. With my experience with the A1's since they were introduced, the very few that did break, were bumped or hit.
Canon will do a good job fixing it for you.

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