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Old March 19th, 2007, 11:19 AM   #61
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Steven,
Excellent !
a few questions ... as you know the H1's menu only goes to +9
so for your 10 I put 4
for your 15 I put 6
for your 25 I put 9

The one thing I worrk about is the RED munching the H1 loves to do,
is this better on the A1/G1?


Thanks for all your insight
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John, red and certain shades of orange are always a huge concern for me in DV or HDV so I really try to avoid shooting it as much as possible. If you don't have a choice and there is a lot of red in what you are shooting, don't use a preset like this, it will definitely cause problems. Having said that, it's amazing how many shots I've taken that have no red in them :)

Your conversion to the H1 seems about right but I can't tell for sure. My Panalook preset looked a little different on the A1 but not enough for me to want to change it. You'll probably get close enough.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 06:47 PM   #62
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There have been reports that the VIVIDRGB has a magenta cast. Please also try this and let me know which one you prefer. I will then make it the official VIVIDRGB version:

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There are reports of a magenta cast so try this one also and let me know which one you guys prefer.

GAM Cine2
KNE Low
BLK Middle
PED -7
SET -1
SHP 1
HDF Middle
DHV 0
COR 0
NR1 0
NR2 0
CMX Cine2
CGN 15
CPH 0
Red Gain 14
Green Gain 20
Blue Gain 14
RG Matrix 15
RB Matrix 10
GR Matrix 10
GB Matrix 15
BR Matrix 25
BG Matrix 25
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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #63
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Steve,

This variation is less magenta, which I prefer.
It is still a touch vibrant in the reds
which I might tone back abit,
but that's all just personal tweeking that
we all probaby do with these pre-sets.
Thanks for putting in the time.
It has given alot of us a jump up the learning curve - well, me anyway.

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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:18 AM   #64
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Presets to match other cameras.

I just did a shoot yesterday with two A1s and a DSR-400 and the VIVRGB came closest. I did turn down the red a bit and used 2800K for a white balance to try and get it closer. The other VIVRGB (trying to correct for Magenta) looked too cold even at 3300K.

As an aside, it sure would be helpful to have other presets to try and match other cameras. There are already several for the DVX100, but it would be great to have a library of presets available for multi-cam shoots.

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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:24 AM   #65
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little confused...which was your preference, the preset in post #51 or #62 of this thread?
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Old April 2nd, 2007, 11:47 AM   #66
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#51, even though I shifted the red s-l-i-g-h-t-l-y and went colder on WB it was still closer (and had more magenta) than #62, which I also tried.

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Old April 4th, 2007, 04:58 PM   #67
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OKay, I want to discard all other attempts at the preset I call VIVIDRGB and make this the new and final one for now:

Gamma: Cine1
Color Matrix: N
Color Gain: +40 (adjust to taste)
Color Phase: 0
Knee: Low
Black: Middle
Master Ped: -5
Setup Level: 0
Horizontal Detail Frequency: High (or mid, depending on your preference)
H/V Detail balance: 0
Sharpness: +3 (or adjust to taste)
NR1: Off
NR2: Off
Coring: 0
Red Gain: 0
Green Gain: -10
Blue Gain: 0
RG Matrix: 0
RB Matrix: -15
GR Matrix: 0
GB Matrix: 8
BR Matrix: 0
BG Matrix: -15

This appears to my eye as neutral (no color casts) aside from some red in the highlights which I can live with and fix in post if needed. I'm just not sure how to adjust for that directly in-camera. Special thanks to Tom Roper for kick starting the settings.

Here's a still using this on an overcast day:
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Old April 4th, 2007, 05:52 PM   #68
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Looking pretty good, Steve. I think I'm going to try this one out!
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Old April 5th, 2007, 07:55 AM   #69
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Hi Steve,

Looks nice I will give this one a try tomorrow on a shoot.

Thank you for your help. Big jump for me coming from the Z1.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 12:10 PM   #70
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Here's the CPF file for the new VIVIDRGB
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Old April 5th, 2007, 10:32 PM   #71
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Any chance of an excel doc. for that adjusted preset?
(mac)...

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Old April 5th, 2007, 10:34 PM   #72
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I have documented the preset setting by setting in post #57.
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Old April 5th, 2007, 11:22 PM   #73
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Sorry if this a tad off topic, but I've seen enough posts regarding people with Macs who always ask for a Custom Preset file in a Excel file format. What is it about Mac's with a SD card reader that can't save a .cpf file to their card? It's not like it has to be opened/read. Isn't it a simple save to the SD card or at the very least a save to drive & transfer to card kind of thing?

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Old April 6th, 2007, 03:25 AM   #74
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I have documented the preset setting by setting in post #57.
Do you mean post #67?

Looks great, thanks --I love how the blue pops against the green (and vise versa) in your test shot...
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Old April 6th, 2007, 07:14 AM   #75
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Yes, I mean 67 :)
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