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Byron Santo July 30th, 2008 03:24 PM

I'm New
 
Hi Everyone

I’m new to the forum and would like to introduce myself. My name is Byron Santo and the XH-A1 is my first camera EVER! I’ve only had it for about three weeks now. Up until Oct-07 I had no interest in video until a friend asked if I could help them learn how to use a Sony DVD-201 consumer camera that they had purchased a few years ago. I’ve been hooked every since.

I do have one question. What f-stop scale is used on the XH A1? At times it appears to 1/3.

Regards,
Byron Santo
www.ByronSanto.com
www.myspace.com/byronsanto

Colin McDonald July 30th, 2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Byron Santo (Post 914368)
Hi Everyone

I’m new to the forum and would like to introduce myself...

I do have one question. What f-stop scale is used on the XH A1? At times it appears to 1/3.

Welcome to the list, Byron.

The NTSC user manual on p56 and elsewhere lists only the aperture range – F1.6 to F9.5 .
Are you sure you don't mean shutter speed as 1/3 is one of values used in 24F mode?

Byron Santo July 30th, 2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin McDonald (Post 914382)
Welcome to the list, Byron.

The NTSC user manual on p56 and elsewhere lists only the aperture range – F1.6 to F9.5 .
Are you sure you don't mean shutter speed as 1/3 is one of values used in 24F mode?

Thanks for the welcome.

I'm positive, f-stop scale. From what I've gathered these are the following scales for f-stops
1, 1/2 & 1/3

Colin McDonald July 30th, 2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Byron Santo (Post 914385)
Thanks for the welcome.

I'm positive, f-stop scale. From what I've gathered these are the following scales for f-stops
1, 1/2 & 1/3

Right, I understand you now – F-stop scale as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number#Fractional_stops

Sorry, I don't know. 1.6 to 9.5 doesn't seem to fit these conventions. If my camera wasn't packed away I'd have a look and see what appears and if it's consistent. But If never been able to find out similar values for focussing distances as it seems different every time.

Byron Santo July 30th, 2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin McDonald (Post 914391)
Right, I understand you now – F-stop scale as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number#Fractional_stops

Sorry, I don't know. 1.6 to 9.5 doesn't seem to fit these conventions. If my camera wasn't packed away I'd have a look and see what appears and if it's consistent. But If never been able to find out similar values for focussing distances as it seems different every time.

I have them.
1.6, 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.2, 3.4, 3.7, 4.0, 4.8, 5.2, 5.6, 6.2, 6.7, 7.3, 8.0, 8.7 & 9.5

2.6, 3.4, 3.7, 4.4, 5.2, 6.2, 7.3 & 8.7 do not match the 1, 1/2 & 1/3 scales.

2.6, 3.4, 4.4, & 6.2 could be a rounding issue.

Colin McDonald July 31st, 2008 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Byron Santo (Post 914394)
I have them.
1.6, 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.2, 3.4, 3.7, 4.0, 4.8, 5.2, 5.6, 6.2, 6.7, 7.3, 8.0, 8.7 & 9.5

2.6, 3.4, 3.7, 4.4, 5.2, 6.2, 7.3 & 8.7 do not match the 1, 1/2 & 1/3 scales.

2.6, 3.4, 4.4, & 6.2 could be a rounding issue.

That's interesting to note, Byron.

For a beginner you seem to be doing quite well:-)

David Beisner July 31st, 2008 06:09 AM

Welcome to dvinfo! You've got a sweet camera...

Bill Grant July 31st, 2008 07:28 AM

Ok,
so why do you ask? what does it mean and why does it matter?
Bill

Byron Santo July 31st, 2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Colin McDonald (Post 914593)
That's interesting to note, Byron.

For a beginner you seem to be doing quite well:-)

Hey Colin

Not sure if this makes a differnce in my beginner status but I do have 20 years experience in audio, i.e. recording, mixing, live sound, mastering and MIDI. :)

Josh Laronge July 31st, 2008 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Byron Santo (Post 914394)

2.6, 3.4, 3.7, 4.4, 5.2, 6.2, 7.3 & 8.7 do not match the 1, 1/2 & 1/3 scales.

They're 1/4 stops.

Good luck with your new cam and adventures in video.

Byron Santo July 31st, 2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Laronge (Post 914641)
They're 1/4 stops.

Good luck with your new cam and adventures in video.

Thanks Josh!

Byron Santo July 31st, 2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Grant (Post 914631)
Ok,
so why do you ask? what does it mean and why does it matter?
Bill

Because my main goal is to learn how to use the "manual" mode and not rely on auto modes to obtain a "correct exposure" or creating a specfic look, etc.

The sequential f-stop values in the camera are a 1/4 stop apart which allows for greater flexibility in obtaining a correct exposure and creating a specific look (long /short DOF) or effect when used in conjunction with shutter speed and at times gain which I try to avoid using due to the noise added.

Bill Grant July 31st, 2008 11:23 AM

Oh,
Ok that's a little too scientific for my taste :) I've just judged by using zebras in conjunction with the meter on the lcd. It works pretty well for keeping it exposed properly. I don't even know how to put this cam in auto, is it the green box thing? :-o
Bill

Colin McDonald July 31st, 2008 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Byron Santo (Post 914632)
Hey Colin

Not sure if this makes a differnce in my beginner status but I do have 20 years experience in audio, i.e. recording, mixing, live sound, mastering and MIDI. :)

Just out of interest, what did you use most of the time in your work?

A few years back I had got nicely settled with ProTools for straight audio and Cubase VST (and sometimes Sibelius) for MIDI and scoring but found that when Cubase SX came along none of my archived files could be opened. One of my colleagues suggested we invest in Logic instead since we had some new Macs - and then promptly got another job. So now I have a real hotch potch of software which is all just different enough to drive me nuts (plus PC and Mac platforms). It's a form of Purgatory - I must have been very bad in my previous life.

Byron Santo July 31st, 2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin McDonald (Post 914751)
Just out of interest, what did you use most of the time in your work?

A few years back I had got nicely settled with ProTools for straight audio and Cubase VST (and sometimes Sibelius) for MIDI and scoring but found that when Cubase SX came along none of my archived files could be opened. One of my colleagues suggested we invest in Logic instead since we had some new Macs - and then promptly got another job. So now I have a real hotch potch of software which is all just different enough to drive me nuts (plus PC and Mac platforms). It's a form of Purgatory - I must have been very bad in my previous life.

Currently I’m using Sonar 6 Producer Edition for about 95% audio recording and 100% MIDI sequencing. Now if I have serious notation to do I'll use Finale. The remaining 5% of the time I’ll use Acid Pro 6 if I’m working with loops but that is only in the compositional stages. For mastering Sound Forge 9 and to many plugins to keep track of. Ha ha …………….

I cannot even remember all of the recording medians I’ve used through the years. I do remember starting my mastering using the first Finalizer when it hit the market. Currently my Finalizer is used on my bands PA system.

Oh, and all of this is running on a custom Sweetwater Creation Station PC.


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