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Old September 18th, 2008, 07:45 AM   #1
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XH-A1 Tapes

ok, i've got a question.

I would prefer not to use consumer miniDV tapes with my xh-a1 anymore. I know there are the pro-miniDV's, but I was wondering if I could use miniDVCAM tapes like the Sony PDVM-40N.

I ask because my department can save $ on packs of these, and they work with our decks.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #2
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Given that Sony provided an PHDVM-63M tape with DVCAM clearly printed on the box with my Sony HVR A1, I would expect a DVCAM tape to be usable in any mini DV camera/deck. I use Sony HD and premium DV tapes in both my cameras.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 08:44 AM   #3
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I use Sony PHDVM-63DM DVCAM Master Digital. It's the only tape that's ever been in my A1s. Works great, never had a drop out.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 11:27 AM   #4
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See also this recent thread and a whole forum section dedicated to tape. There's nothing peculiar to the XH-A1 in this respect. What's true for this camera is true for all HDV cameras and, to some extent, all DV cams too. IIRC DVCAM is just DV run at a higher tape speed. The tapes should be interchangeable. FWIW I have had good results with Panasonic AMQ. I do get the occassional drop out, but nothing like as serious as a friend who uses Sony Premium miniDV tapes in his FX1.
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Old September 18th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #5
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I have been using the Panasonic AYDVM63PQ 63/42 Minute tapes with 0 drops. I had two drops with the canon tape that came with the camera, but the Panasonics have been affordable and solid for me.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 06:23 AM   #6
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hmm, you've given me thoughts to think. haha. thanks all
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Old September 19th, 2008, 09:37 AM   #7
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I used the AMQ for awhile with no problems, but then on a 2-camera shoot with two XH A1's we had a total of 5 tapes with serious dropouts from both cameras. They all came from the same batch, so I thought that was the problem. Then later I had a dropout in another one. So I gave them up and went with the Sony PHDVM-63. I'm into the second 20 and no trouble at all. Since Canon doesn't make tapes, the Canons are probably Sony or maybe Fuji, in the same box but a different color and more expensive than the PHDVM.

A friend has been using the AMQs with no problems. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw. I used Sony DVCAM tapes for 8 years and never saw a dropout. The Digital Mastering ones are allegedly their best in this format, so I hope it's true. On the other hand, I know one company who has shot hundreds of HDV with Sony's much cheaper Premium tapes and has had no dropout problems. Y'pays yer money and y'takes yer chances.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 07:31 PM   #8
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See also this recent thread and a whole forum section dedicated to tape. There's nothing peculiar to the XH-A1 in this respect. What's true for this camera is true for all HDV cameras and, to some extent, all DV cams too. IIRC DVCAM is just DV run at a higher tape speed. The tapes should be interchangeable. FWIW I have had good results with Panasonic AMQ. I do get the occassional drop out, but nothing like as serious as a friend who uses Sony Premium miniDV tapes in his FX1.
I just posted in that thread too(http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/canon-xh-...tml#post939797). I decided to go with the PQs myself to save a bit of money buying a 10 pack off of Amazon. I'm probably going to get some of the AMQ tapes for important shoots though.

I just want to get some tapes soon so I can start using my XH-A1. It arrived this week, but all I have are sony tapes because that's all I used in my HC1 (these guys http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...e_Premium.html). FWIW, I never had a problem with these consumer level tapes with my HC1. That's why I'm wondering about using the more expensive tapes, but I guess better safe than sorry on your real important events.
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