What UV filter is best to use with the A1? at DVinfo.net

Tom Santopolo · January 31st, 2009, 10:31 PM

What UV filter is best to use with the A1?

Curt Fargo · January 31st, 2009, 10:36 PM

Don't put a $10 piece of glass on the front of a $1,500 lens. Get something like a good quality B+W. Don't settle for the entry level filters, get a quality piece of glass.

Tom Santopolo · January 31st, 2009, 10:46 PM

Thats what I was asking - which unit works well for everyone.

Allan Black · February 1st, 2009, 12:49 AM

Agree with Curt, B+W. Not the slimline though, nothing for the lens cap to grab onto.

My best filter outdoors is the B+W graduated ND 502. It drops the upper half of the pix by 2 stops. Great for detail on the ground.

Last year someone asked whether I needed an ND on the cam with 2 already available, I said no at the time. But recently in the bright Oz summer sun, yes!

Cheers.

Ann Bens · February 1st, 2009, 04:59 AM

Canon makes UV filters, i've got one mounted.

Tom Santopolo · February 1st, 2009, 08:44 PM

How is this one:
65-070147 | B&H Photo Video

Steve Wolla · February 1st, 2009, 09:14 PM

I use B&W on both my cams. Very good glass, well made too.

Curt Fargo · February 1st, 2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Santopolo

How is this one:
65-070147 | B&H Photo Video

That is their low end version. This one would be much better B+W | 72mm UV Haze 010 (MRC) Multi-Resistant Coating | 66070243

Petri Kaipiainen · February 2nd, 2009, 01:11 AM

If you can get just a protection filter at cheaper price it would work just as well.

Digital sensors are not sensetive to UV, thus UV filtering does absolutelly nothing to the image.

On the other hand filtering UV does not harm anything exept maybe your vallet.

Curt Fargo · February 2nd, 2009, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petri Kaipiainen

If you can get just a protection filter at cheaper price it would work just as well.

Digital sensors are not sensetive to UV, thus UV filtering does absolutelly nothing to the image.

On the other hand filtering UV does not harm anything exept maybe your vallet.

But the overall resolution is sensitive to shooting through a cheap piece of glass.

Tom Santopolo · February 2nd, 2009, 09:48 AM

The qustion is do i need the Multi-Resistant Coating model. I see the Canon filters do not have it. I am going to use them to really just protect the Lens, but I don't want any quality loss.

Tom Hardwick · February 2nd, 2009, 10:48 AM

If you feel you absolutely must fit a protective filter Tom (protection from what - are you shooting in sand-storms?) then buy the very best Super Multi-coated one you can find. This filter ends up as being your expensive zoom's new front element, and as such needs to be squeeky clean because it invariably reduces your hood's efficiency.

Remember this. If Canon thought that adding another element (to the line-up of 15 that were already there) would improve the image in any way, it would be there.

tom.

Curt Fargo · February 2nd, 2009, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Hardwick

If you feel you absolutely must fit a protective filter Tom (protection from what - are you shooting in sand-storms?) then buy the very best Super Multi-coated one you can find. This filter ends up as being your expensive zoom's new front element, and as such needs to be squeeky clean because it invariably reduces your hood's efficiency.

Remember this. If Canon thought that adding another element (to the line-up of 15 that were already there) would improve the image in any way, it would be there.

tom.

I Agree 100%

Tom

I must make a disclaimer here. My expertise is in the still photography world and not in the Video World, I am new to video.

If you are not using a coated filter, it would be like you shooting through a window. I'm guessing that you are like me and don't like to shoot through a window if at all possible.

Many professionals, including myself don't use a "Protection Filters" on any of our still lens as they can affect the overall resolution and we are looking for the best resolution obtainable.

So how much can a protection filter affect you image quality, the lower the quality of filter the greater negative effect. So if you do plan on using one, don't cheap out.

How Lens Coating Works

Tom Hardwick · February 2nd, 2009, 11:09 AM

Curt - you're from the still camera world and you're used to dealing with huge chips and long focal lengths. Even 28 mm seems vast to us video guys.

The XH has tiny 1"/3 chips and focal lengths in the 4 mm region. 4 mm! The dof is all-encompassing, and the chips can easily see the tiniest speck of dust on your 'protective filter' when shooting into the light.

Multi-coating is tough these days; you'd intentionally have to set out to damage it to succeed. So - use filters when you absolutely must (grads or polarisors) but other than that think twice before you fit one. They degrade video footage far more than stills.

tom.

Curt Fargo · February 2nd, 2009, 11:33 AM

Tom H

Thanks for the heads up, I though that might be the case but it is nice to have my assumptions backed up.

January 31st, 2009, 10:31 PM	#1
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Curt Fargo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vacaville, CA USA Posts: 83	Don't put a $10 piece of glass on the front of a $1,500 lens. Get something like a good quality B+W. Don't settle for the entry level filters, get a quality piece of glass. __________________ Curt Fargo

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Curt Fargo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vacaville, CA USA Posts: 83	Tom H Thanks for the heads up, I though that might be the case but it is nice to have my assumptions backed up. __________________ Curt Fargo

January 31st, 2009, 10:46 PM	#3
Tom Santopolo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vermont Posts: 60	Thats what I was asking - which unit works well for everyone.

February 1st, 2009, 12:49 AM	#4
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,887	Agree with Curt, B+W. Not the slimline though, nothing for the lens cap to grab onto. My best filter outdoors is the B+W graduated ND 502. It drops the upper half of the pix by 2 stops. Great for detail on the ground. Last year someone asked whether I needed an ND on the cam with 2 already available, I said no at the time. But recently in the bright Oz summer sun, yes! Cheers.

February 1st, 2009, 04:59 AM	#5
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Canon makes UV filters, i've got one mounted.

February 1st, 2009, 08:44 PM	#6
Tom Santopolo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vermont Posts: 60	How is this one: 65-070147 \| B&H Photo Video

February 1st, 2009, 09:14 PM	#7
Steve Wolla Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 477	I use B&W on both my cams. Very good glass, well made too.

February 2nd, 2009, 01:11 AM	#9
Petri Kaipiainen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Espoo Finland Posts: 380	If you can get just a protection filter at cheaper price it would work just as well. Digital sensors are not sensetive to UV, thus UV filtering does absolutelly nothing to the image. On the other hand filtering UV does not harm anything exept maybe your vallet.

February 2nd, 2009, 09:48 AM	#11
Tom Santopolo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vermont Posts: 60	The qustion is do i need the Multi-Resistant Coating model. I see the Canon filters do not have it. I am going to use them to really just protect the Lens, but I don't want any quality loss.

February 2nd, 2009, 10:48 AM	#12
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	If you feel you absolutely must fit a protective filter Tom (protection from what - are you shooting in sand-storms?) then buy the very best Super Multi-coated one you can find. This filter ends up as being your expensive zoom's new front element, and as such needs to be squeeky clean because it invariably reduces your hood's efficiency. Remember this. If Canon thought that adding another element (to the line-up of 15 that were already there) would improve the image in any way, it would be there. tom.

February 2nd, 2009, 11:09 AM	#14
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Curt - you're from the still camera world and you're used to dealing with huge chips and long focal lengths. Even 28 mm seems vast to us video guys. The XH has tiny 1"/3 chips and focal lengths in the 4 mm region. 4 mm! The dof is all-encompassing, and the chips can easily see the tiniest speck of dust on your 'protective filter' when shooting into the light. Multi-coating is tough these days; you'd intentionally have to set out to damage it to succeed. So - use filters when you absolutely must (grads or polarisors) but other than that think twice before you fit one. They degrade video footage far more than stills. tom.