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Suzanne Zorich February 11th, 2009 04:40 PM

Does the Rode NTG 1 fit well on the A1 ??
 
Hey guys, does anyone have the rode NTG-1 and does it fit well on the A1?
Thanks!

Vasco Dones February 11th, 2009 05:39 PM

Hi Suzanne,

for noise-related reasons,
I suggest you forget the camera mic holder
and put your NTG-1 on a shockmount.
I use this one (with my NTG-2):
Azden | SMH-1 Shock Mount for Shotgun Mics | SMH-1 | B&H Photo
and it does the job.

Best

Vasco

Colin McDonald February 11th, 2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Zorich (Post 1010486)
Hey guys, does anyone have the rode NTG-1 and does it fit well on the A1?
Thanks!

Many, many threads - here's some:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/canon-xh-...p-ntg-1-a.html
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/canon-xh-...ock-mount.html
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/canon-xh-...h-a1-slot.html

Try the Google search box at the bottom of the pages

Tripp Woelfel February 11th, 2009 06:51 PM

Aside from the camera noise issue when mounted in the on-camera mount, which would likely manifest itself with any mic, an NTG-1 wearing foam and a dead cat will drape hairs in frame at Z0.

Get a shoe mounted mic holder and both problems vanish. Don't buy the Rode holder. It's cheaply made rubbish. The one that came with my NTG-1 broke after about three uses. I replaced it with this. Much better even if it is a bit dear.

I'd suggest that you go for the NTG-2. The only difference is that it's battery powered which would let you use it without external power. If I had it to do again, I would. Other than that, I think, for the price the NTG-1 is brilliant.

Here are two examples of the NTG-1 used for interviews in two different environments. This one is loud. This one is fairly quiet except for the last interview where the loudspeaker was cranked.

Allan Black February 11th, 2009 10:17 PM

Both the NTG-1 and 2 sound exactly the same .. great for the price.

One of the biggest advantages of a prosumer buying the NTG-2 over the NTG-1 is...when you come to sell it, and you will one day, you'll have far more chance because it has the battery option.

Suzanne, if you do buy the NTG-2 follow its instructions.

NEVER leave the battery in it if you run 48V all the time....and the biggest *complaint* RODE get is .. people leaving the NTG-2 switched on when they put it away.

They field daily calls about high battery usage....amazing but they do.

Cheers.

Suzanne Zorich February 11th, 2009 10:36 PM

Thanks so much, all of your information was extremely helpful!
let me ask you this though, I just realized I am using the shoe for my frezzi mini fill light, obviously I don't want to use the camera mount from all you've said about noise problems...now what?

Hubert Duijzer February 12th, 2009 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan Black (Post 1010626)
and the biggest *complaint* RODE get is .. people leaving the NTG-2 switched on when they put it away.

Where's the on/off switch on the NTG-2? The only switch is the 'windcut-filter'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Zorich
I just realized I am using the shoe for my frezzi mini fill light, obviously I don't want to use the camera mount from all you've said about noise problems...now what?

Suzanne, i use the Rode SM5, it's a shockmount that can be put in the A1's micholder. Even with a WDH72 wideangle lens i have no fur in the frame.

Allan Black February 12th, 2009 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubert Duijzer (Post 1010677)
Where's the on/off switch on the NTG-2? The only switch is the 'windcut-filter'.

Thanks Hubert, no power switch as such, I should have said ... RODE recommend you remove the battery before you put the NTG-2 away for a time. It drains power when installed.

Cheers.

Tripp Woelfel February 12th, 2009 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Zorich (Post 1010636)
Thanks so much, all of your information was extremely helpful!
let me ask you this though, I just realized I am using the shoe for my frezzi mini fill light, obviously I don't want to use the camera mount from all you've said about noise problems...now what?

There are other options. You're not alone in wanting to mount a mic and a light at the same time. If you poke around the B&H site you can find bits that will let you do that. I've seen fittings that go on the shoe and others that attach to the bottom mounting plate. Also, don't be afraid to mount the mic in the on camera mount if you're not using the dead cat (or not zooming out to Z0). I've only found the camera zoom motor noise audible in the most quiet of situations with audio levels set to auto so I'm not afraid of the on camera mic mount.

Suzanne Zorich February 12th, 2009 08:51 AM

Brilliant! Thanks guys, again... great advice.

Vasco Dones February 12th, 2009 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Zorich (Post 1010636)
Thanks so much, all of your information was extremely helpful!
let me ask you this though, I just realized I am using the shoe for my frezzi mini fill light, obviously I don't want to use the camera mount from all you've said about noise problems...now what?

Suzanne,

one option is to buy a J-rod (twin-mount):
thej-rod.com

You can put your Frezzi on the camera shoe,
yet you still have two more shoes, one for
your mic & shockmount,
one for your wireless receiver...

How about that?

Best

Vasco

Suzanne Zorich February 12th, 2009 12:34 PM

very interesting!, have you used this before? That's a really good solution!

Suzanne Zorich February 12th, 2009 12:45 PM

very interesting!, have you used this before? That's a really good solution!

Vasco Dones February 12th, 2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzanne Zorich (Post 1010941)
very interesting!, have you used this before? That's a really good solution!

Yes, Suzanne, and it works!

Suzanne Zorich February 23rd, 2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripp Woelfel (Post 1010749)
There are other options. You're not alone in wanting to mount a mic and a light at the same time. If you poke around the B&H site you can find bits that will let you do that. I've seen fittings that go on the shoe and others that attach to the bottom mounting plate. Also, don't be afraid to mount the mic in the on camera mount if you're not using the dead cat (or not zooming out to Z0). I've only found the camera zoom motor noise audible in the most quiet of situations with audio levels set to auto so I'm not afraid of the on camera mic mount.

Tripp, do you use the camera's battery to power the shotgun through the XLR, or just internal AA batteries?
Thanks!


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